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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-10 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3019 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3019 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
When it comes to art and concept, Fantasia is incredible. As for content... eh. It's a product of its time.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the reason why I refuse to watch it again.

I loved it as a child. I watched it dozens upon dozens of times. I don't want that memory ruined. :(

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
70 some year old movie doesn't measure up to contemporary tumblr gender politics. News at eleven.

::eye roll:

Just. Yeah. ::eye roll::

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"Contemporary tumblr gender politics"

::eye roll::
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-04-10 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I will never understand why something has to be surprising in order to be worth commenting on.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL at "tumblr gender politics."

How much time have you been spending at r/KotakuInAction, anon? Might be time to step back.
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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2015-04-10 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"contemporary tumblr gender politics" haha ok

Anybody who gives a shit about feminism can probably see the problems in this movie from miles away, it's not exactly subtle

(Anonymous) 2015-04-11 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
contemporary tumblr gender politics?????

uh, no, dude, that's just ordinary gender politics.
like gender politics 101.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It's so weird that female animals, fish...whatever in Disney movies have heavy makeup, big eyelashes so you can tell that they're female.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Female lions DO have giant eyelashes though:

http://i.imgur.com/eT824Hg.webm

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool story bro

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That is adorable!

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-11 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TertiarySexualCharacteristics

(Anonymous) 2015-04-15 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
This is so not a Disney thing but a general cartoon / animation / anything involving anthropomorphization thing. Doesn't make it any less annoying and bizarre, but yeah.

Without makeup, I'm pretty sure men have bigger eyelashes in general because men are generally more hirsute...

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-04-10 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Still like it. I thought those centaur girls/boys were sexy when I was a child, so I have no regrets.

I mean, whatever. Have you looked at any of the period art those shorts were based on? It's basically copying and pasting the sexuality and sensuality already inherent in the depictions of the mythos that have existed since the 16th century.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2015-04-10 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Fantasia is one of my favorite movies ever because of the GORGEOUSNESS of the animation and because I like music videos, but it...definitely shows its age and a lot of the prejudices thereof. Although I never thought the centaurs looked different in age from each other.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-10 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
My favorite part was always the dinosaurs anyway.

But yeah Fantasia has problems. Can't change the past, only the future.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2015-04-10 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
My parents report that I was able to sit through this entire movie and not budge once when I was 3. I've loved it ever since, and still watch it on occasion.

Also it's the only thing I can use to describe how I experience sound->visual synaesthesia and consistently have people 'get it'.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-11 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Walt Disney had synaesthesia which is why he made Phantasia.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-11 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I love the film, the art and music is gorgeous. And, as someone else pointed out, it does bear noting that it's 70 years old. Things change over time. I'm sorry that it's been poisoned for you, but for me I can appreciate it without worrying about the politics of the day. Can't say I ever noticed much about the centaurs, though; that segment was overly childish to me and I usually skipped it.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-11 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
The dinosaurs are actually my least favorite. It takes FOREVER and the music is annoying.

I'm also not the biggest fan of the Micky Mouse/wizard one. It's not bad but I can't watch it over and over the way I can the opening.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-11 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Image: screen cap from Fantasia of a fish wearing make-up.

Text: this was my favourite movie as a child.
i used to watch it literally every single day.

sexy fish.
this is weird.

rewatching it as an adult, though, has kind of poisoned it for me. it’s all just so bizarre. everything in the movie is weirdly gendered. the sexy fish? the sexy season fairies? the underaged-looking centaur girls putting on a beauty pageant for their older boyfriend? the whole hippo/croc/ostrich sequence?

at least i can still enjoy the dinosaur part.

*also the black centaurs are zebras and servants to Dionysus and don’t hang out with the other centaurs/no interracial romance here, nosirree
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-04-11 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
I always thought the fat guy in the Pastoral Symphony segment was Silenus, not Dionysus. He's old, fat, drunk and even rides a donkey. Wikipedia seems to indicate that the character was a conflation of both, but I still think of him more as Silenus.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-15 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's definitely more uncomfortable watching it as an adult. The things you mentioned also stood out to me, except I'm pretty sure the sexy fairies are both male and female, and I think the centaurs are meant to be the same age (but just very gender dimorphic in terms of body size). The whole beauty show thing is so weird, though. So so weird.

Oh yeah, and while we're mentioning race, the physical features of the white and black goldfish in that segment are also uncomfortable to the adult eye.