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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-12 03:20 pm

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Society

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2015-04-12 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
If you could build a society from scratch what would it look like?

Re: Society

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you seen The Culture? That.

Re: Society

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2015-04-12 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
No! Culture High/Show/Vultures comes up when I search. What are you talking about?

Re: Society

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but they're referring to the Culture novels by Iain M Banks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture

Basically, egalitarian post-scarcity society made up of several species / AIs

Re: Society

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2015-04-12 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

Re: Society

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Haven't gotten very far, but I do know my cats would be worshipped as gods.
lb_lee: A happy little brain with a bandage on it, enclosed within a circle with the words LB Lee. (pride)

Re: Society

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-12 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I don't think I could manage.

That said, our system could be considered a tiny society built from scratch, and I like how we run pretty well!

Basically, the root of our system governance is that no major decisions can be made without unanimous agreement. Any one of us, at any time, can basically filibuster us into paralysis, but we're small enough and have enough invested in each other to not want that to happen. (And if one of us DOES attempt such a thing, that means it's uber-important.)

We then each claim jurisdiction, again with other system members' agreement. For instance, Mac covers cooking and job interviews; I cover money and inescapable stress; Gigi handles emergencies involving acute danger, and so on. So if we disagree on something, one way to accelerate consensus is for someone to call jurisdiction. (For example, if we get into a fight over how our budget should work, I can claim jurisdiction and therefore authority on the subject.)

Minor things, though, anyone can take care of. (What do we have for lunch today, what shirt do we wear, etc.)

It usually works pretty smoothly, and I feel like it's taught us more how to communicate with each other and cooperate, rather than compete for our resources. And we aren't constantly sabotaging or attacking each other, which is what we used to do BEFORE coming up with this system.

--Rogan

Re: Society

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with that system on a larger scale is that getting unanimous agreement, with a large enough group to be considered a society by global standards [or hell, even just a town] that's just not going to happen and it would cause far too many problems.

Take that down to 2/3s agreement or simple majority though and that might be a workable system [with certain modifications to incorporate a larger group] and that might actually work.

[And yeah, I realize that you're just talking about yourself - I just thought it was an interesting idea.]
lb_lee: A happy little brain with a bandage on it, enclosed within a circle with the words LB Lee. (pride)

Re: Society

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-12 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, I readily acknowledge that the only reason our system works is that there's only half a dozen of us. It wouldn't work for anyone much bigger.

It also helps that we only have one vessel's worth of resources to allocate. So it's a much simpler process than running a freakin' city. (Though bigger systems have their own ways of running.)

--Rogan

Re: Society

(Anonymous) 2015-04-12 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
How big?
How complex?
How technologically advanced?
Where is it located?
What is the climate like?
What natural resources do we have available?
What are our neighboring societies like?
Are they willing to trade with us?
What's the population makeup like?

Re: Society

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2015-04-12 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Completely up to you. I don't want anything I say to have an impact on your answer. I guess think like Spore?

Re: Society

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. That's tough to answer. Small, and decentralized, and rather agrarian - lots of very small republics, that kind of thing. Most people to own property if they want. Post-scarcity, obviously. Cities are very dense, there's no suburbs. No national chains. Transportation primarily through rail. Stuff like that.

Re: Society

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
An Edward Hicks painting.