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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-12 03:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #3021 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3021 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
(anon who started this subthread)

One problem with this is that the meaning of SJW has become unclear as time has passed. It started out meaning people like you're describing, but these days there's a large contingent of people who will use it to mean anyone who doesn't think that the status quo is awesome and that anyone who claims to be burdened by it is a whining liar. (MRAs and Gamergaters use it this way, for instance.) And this has led to more moderate people *also* picking up the SJW label as a point of pride and defiance against those guys.

So these days, it's a phrase that's on the verge of losing all meaning. I usually think that, when it gets thrown into a conversation, it does more harm than good regardless of how the speaker is using it.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
Funny you say that, because barely anyone identifies as an actual MRA and I'm pretty sure people use it just to say dudes I don't like at this point.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, believe me, their cult is alive and well. I run into them in the circles I move in. Contemptible little fuckers.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Which doesn't have anything to do with AYRT's comment. There may not be many actual MRAs, but that doesn't mean that the ones who do exist don't misuse the term SJW in the way AYRT described.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-13 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Drop by sites like A Voice for Men sometime (if you've got a strong constitution), or any of its related sites. There's a substantial population of men out there who call themselves MRAs or PUAs or MGTOWs or incels and so on, and they act every bit like you'd expect. And, of course, Gamergaters have a significant overlap. This isn't a 'both sides' situation where the wrongdoing is perfectly symmetrical.