[ SECRET POST #3025 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3025 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 019 secrets from Secret Submission Post #432.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

He is seriously injured, held captive, tortured, has the thing keeping him alive yanked out of his chest by his surrogate father figure, and ends up losing said surrogate father figure when the only way to stop him ends up being fatal - all because Stane resents having to play second fiddle to this arrogant, dismissive dick of a manchild.

He goes off the rails, blows up a huge chunk of his home in a fight with his best friend, has several significant arguments with the woman he has feelings for, and has to face the prospect of dying painfully pretty much alone because again, arrogant dismissive dick, with a side helping of being pathologically unable to communicate.

He gets his entire house blown up and sunk into the ocean, nearly drowns and is seriously injured because he baits a terrorist with his home address and, again, was a dismissive dick.

It's not a lack of consequences because he manages to overcome things - in some cases, after a number of years and hopefully a hell of a lot of therapy. There's not a binary with one state set at "destitute and desperate" and the other set at "scott free".

[(Anonymous)]

All he's lost is monetary stuff. He keeps making mistake after mistake, and never freaking learns. They keep trying to make it "Oh poor Tony, stuff happened and he's super conflicted because he's screwed up, feel sorry for the poor snarky man child". But I don't, not one bit. It's all rinse repeat. He's going to wreck everything in Avengers 2 with Ultron creation, and you'd think that would maybe make him reflect... But oh no! This asshats bringing us the real pain with a civil war in Captain 3.

I'm legit surprised at all the Tony support. He ain't shit and will never be shit.

[(Anonymous)]

"It's not a lack of consequences because he manages to overcome things"

Well, no. But given that almost everything he suffers is, at best, temporary, they seem more like hindrances than actual consequences.

There's no permanent loss or sacrifice. Tony manages to overcome EVERYTHING thrown at him. And a lot of the issues he faces are of his own making -- such as when he was dying in Iron Man II when that could have been solved by removing the arc reactor.

Like, if Tony lost a friend or lost his fortune and had to make do without or had his entire life irrevocably changed, then I might agree with you.

But, as it stands, he never really has to own up to anything because there's always a way OUT.

For him, there's always a trick or a strategy that will let him come out on top in the end. So what is he really gonna learn?

The challenges Tony's character faces can be best epitomized by the "loss" of Pepper in Iron Man III. He's terrified of losing her in that film. And he does...for all of five minutes before she returns, stronger than ever, and kicks ass. Sure he has to face things that hurt, but it never sticks -- he ALWAYS gets "happily ever after" (so far, at least).

[(Anonymous)]

Why should he suffer more though? At the end of it all, he's a hero, not a villian. He had wealth but not the most loving childhood, his parents are dead, and he's suffered PTSD. But sure, let's let him die or whatever. As punishment t for being an imperfect human.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not about punishment. It's about having to LIVE with the consequences. Tony doesn't live with the consequences of his bad decisions. He always has a way OUT.

Everything you mention (his wealth, cold childhood, dead parents, PTSD) are bad things that happened to him THAT AREN'T HIS FAULT. They have NOTHING to do with his terrible behavior. They aren't CONSEQUENCES because they aren't the result of a choice Tony made.

Sometimes when you fuck up, you CAN'T fix things. And while I don't want that to happen in EVERY instance, I do think it would be nice for Tony to have to deal with consequences that he can't right or make okay. Because as of now, he's only ever had to deal with problems temporarily before a solution presents itself.