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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-17 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #3026 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"just that guys liking girl-on-girl is more socially acceptable, which let's face it, it is."

No, it isn't. It might be less shocking, but it's certainly not more "acceptable".

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
"Less" shocking is not "more" acceptable? So you mean people don't accept that admission with less shock... or isn't that exactly what you're saying?

Seriously, qualifiers change meanings. Saying one thing is more acceptable than another thing doesn't necessarily imply that it is, in fact, widely acceptable... because degrees. Otherwise we're just splitting hairs for no reason.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
There are different kinds of shock. The average person might be aware that some guys watch lesbian porn, but I'd think that's a negative image, not an "acceptable" one. like some guys pick their noses, some guys don't wash their hands after wanking, some guys watch lesbian porn. That is in no way "acceptable".

Someone might be surprised if a woman said she liked gay porn, because it's not something that comes up often, but I seriously doubt that would illicit more social backlash than a guy who said he liked lesbian porn in the exact circumstances.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
No offense but I find this REALLY hard to believe.

You know Black Swan right? Has a make out and sex scene between Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis -- TONS of guys were way into that and were in no way quiet about it. It was hugely mainstream.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
What exactly are you arguing? That men react and pay money for titillating material?

Literally nothing to do with the topic at hand.

And for what it's worth, I do remember that movie coming out, and I don't remember loads of guys publicly talking about how sexy lesbians are. And if they did, I reckon they earned plenty of dirty looks.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I remember when Black Swan came out one of the major selling points (especially among male reviewers) was "it's got Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis making out, guys *winkwink*". You either live under a rock or are very naive.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
And I remember when Brokeback Mountain came out. This was BEFORE I was in fandom at all, and I heard women (non-fandom women) saying this like "omg Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal make out, hot!"

(Anonymous) 2015-04-19 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
It WAS hot but I also thought that both Ledger and Gyllenhaal looked like children, LOL, because they're both young-looking.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
That was the scariest lesbian sex scene ever. Maybe it's because I'm not into lesbian sex (I'm a gay man so I'm all about dicks) but, in that movie, I knew their sex scene was nothing but trouble. But that movie was fucking brilliant.

SPOILER BELOW

When Mila goes down on Natalie only to come back up and be Natalie? Oh fuck the hell no!

SPOILER ABOVE

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
If you just throw porn out of the conversation and make it PG-13, you'd see the OP's point. Guys liking the thought of two hot girls making out? Definitely a thing, part of pop culture even, I'd be surprised you've never encountered references to it in mainstream media. Girls being into guy-on-guy? That is now becoming a thing but still way less common and more likely to elicit eyebrows and "ewwww" from idiots who decide that, now that dicks are involved, it's suddenly gay!

(The reason we need to throw porn out of the conversation is because porn itself is still controversial and "shameful" regardless of who's watching it... but even then, people generally assume it to be a thing men do.)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The argument isn't about whether it's a thing that's known about. The argument is about whether it's socially acceptable.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-17 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and I'm arguing that if something is common enough that people casually joke about it and feature it in big budget movies, then it is definitely more accepted by society than something that, at present, hardly ever gets that treatment. Seriously, what definition of socially acceptable do we have to go with? It's sex, it's raunchy -- it's not topic for polite conversation any way you cut it. Doesn't mean people don't talk about it.

Hair. Splitting. You.