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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-17 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #3026 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think this is really only true in very liberal / feminist circles (the internet being one of them). I'm part of those circles, but I actually don't care that men like lesbian porn, especially since I know a lot of women like the genderflipped equivalent of it. I think it's only a certain type of extreme SJ person who would try to police what other people find hot, and who consider men consuming lesbian porn fetishizing and unacceptable. (IMO, I think it's really only unacceptable if you consume m/m or f/f porn and are shitty to real-life gays/lesbians/bisexual people (like denying them rights or being homophobic) -- because that's some real cognitive dissonance right there.)

Outside these very social justice-y circles, I think people generally don't think men liking lesbian porn is unacceptable.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
or actual lesbians. who don't like when guys objectify lesbians through porn because it leads to treating them shitty in real life.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
l...esbians? what is this social justice crap?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
but surely that's an argument against pornography & smut in general

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, someone could be against straight men consuming lesbian porn but still think it's okay for lesbians to consume it.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure that holds up?

There would need to be some form of objectification unique to lesbian porn as such, I guess, as distinct from porn generally.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
It... it's really not an uncommon viewpoint. Have you really never heard someone say that they think it's especially objectifying and fetishizing for straight men to jerk off to lesbian porn? Never heard someone say that it's messed up that "lesbian" porn is framed by the porn industry just a category of straight porn?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
But those are all specifically aspects of a specific subset of lesbian porn within the commercial porn industry, not of dudes being into women boning, or of lesbian porn as such

whereas the discussion that we've been having seems to be on much broader ground than that, if we're discussing social acceptability of sexual tastes broadly

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
It looks to me like they weren't actually chiming in to the broader discussion, but were in fact specifically objecting to the claim that no one "outside of social justice-y circles" finds lesbian porn unacceptable. They were saying that that isn't true, because actual lesbians may find it unacceptable for men to objectify lesbians through lesbian porn.