case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-17 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #3026 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3026 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.
[Time Team]


__________________________________________________



04.
(Transformers: Windblade)


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.
[Sesame Street]


__________________________________________________



08.
(Transformers: More than Meets the Eye)


__________________________________________________



09.


__________________________________________________



10.
(Transformers: Robots in Disguise 2015)


__________________________________________________



11.


__________________________________________________



12.


__________________________________________________



13.


__________________________________________________



14.


__________________________________________________



15.


__________________________________________________



16. [ SPOILERS for Aldnoah.Zero ]



__________________________________________________



17. [ SPOILERS for Classic Who ]



__________________________________________________



18. [ SPOILERS for Inuyasha ]



__________________________________________________



19. [ WARNING for abuse, suicide ]



__________________________________________________



20. [ WARNING for abuse ]












Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #432.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-18 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
What? People actually think that? Do they miss the fucking scene where she literally stabs Utena in the back?

Honestly, I'm not in the fandom, but I would have thought there would be more Anthy haters who just couldn't forgive her for that betrayal.

Anthy has never been innocent, and characterizing her as such is so missing the point of the show. The POINT is that although they start out acting out roles of "Prince and Princess", the deeper you get the more you realize those roles - and by extension gender stereotypes - are full of holes. Utena is not a selfless hero, she pushes her ideals on Anthy for most of the show for the sake of her ego. She even spells it out for the viewers after Anthy tries to kill herself. "I never asked you what you want."

And Anthy is not a innocent, passive victim - she has her own will and she expresses it again and again, often in twisted, negative ways. She lies and manipulates Utena, even as she's clearly conflicted about it to the point of despair.

Seeing her as an innocent denies ALL of her depth of character. I can't even.

solarbird: (shego-cosplay)

[personal profile] solarbird 2015-04-18 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. I mean, like, at the end of the Black Rose arc, in that final scene, one of the people I was watching with even said, "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the last fan theory Anthy is secretly the hero just died." I don't see how you get past that arc thinking that way about Anthy.

(I also have rage issues from childhood abuse. I'm a supervillain, go fig, which is why I am torn between Utena-and-Anthy icons and Shego icons here, but went with Shego. Harnessed, rage can be useful, and like many here, it took a while to be able to acknowledge and express just (in the sense of justice, not in the sense of only) anger.

I'm also pretty bitter about it, and while I feel no guilt about that - nor should you, OP - it's still one of the things I deal with in therapy. Because, at least in my experience... it's not as useful. Rage motivates. Not always wisely, but it motivates. Bitterness doesn't - at least, not for me.)