ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-01-16 01:25 am

[ SECRET POST #375 ]


⌈ Secret Post #375 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

I lost the game. ):
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Re: 37 OP

[identity profile] dewdropinn.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
You know, honestly...? I can't really see Kurogane and Fay actually getting together in the end and having a 'happily ever after' no matter how many hints get thrown at us (and yes, I see the hints just like everyone else. I just prefer K/F as a platonic relationship)

I mean, CLAMP obviously has no problem with gay characters, but the series is running in a shounen magazine that's aimed at teenage Japanese boys. Just how often do gay protagonists appear in shounen series?

Re: 37 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-01-16 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
I do ship it, but I think that from my perspective, this is as canon as we're going to get. And I'm happy with it. However, I do think that Tsubasa has proven itself to not be the 100% traditional shounen series, and CLAMP doesn't seem too worried about fitting completely into the shounen mold, so I don't think you can discount K/F simply on the basis of Tsubasa being a shounen manga.

Re: 37 OP

[identity profile] dewdropinn.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
No, I agree. This is probably about as canon as we're going to get.

Okay, true. I mean, I know that CLAMP is going to throw hints at us left and right, but they're probably never going to say they love each other or even kiss.

Re: 37 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-01-16 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Well, to be fair, how many couples in CLAMP mangas actually say 'I love you'? We usually just get something along the lines of 'so and so is so and so's special person' or just actions that show us that the two people are connected.

Re: 37 OP

[identity profile] crackjaw.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
There aren't gay protagonists, but there's gay fanservice in series as popular as Naruto. Oh, and I've heard that the mangaka of GetBackers is a yaoi fan and slashes his own characters. So the fact that it's shounen doesn't really mean no gay.

Not that that's the only argument, though. I don't think they're canon in the strictest sense either. I think that's how CLAMP means for it to be interpreted, but that doesn't mean you have to interpret it that way.
Edited 2008-01-16 03:48 (UTC)

Re: 37 OP

[identity profile] dewdropinn.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
GetBackers... Okay, you've got a point. I can definitely see that. Tons of people ship them and they have a lot of chemistry, but Ban and Ginji were never an official couple, right? They were clearly important to each other, though.

Maybe I'm confusing myself. I don't really know how to word this. Part of me just wants to shut up now before I get chewed out at [livejournal.com profile] clamp_rants
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[identity profile] crackjaw.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
No, they're not. And neither is Kurogane/Fay, imo. But there is intentional subtext there, you have to admit, whether you ship them or not, which you certainly don't have to do.

Ahahahaha, it does kind of amuse me how they fall back on unpopular opinions on [livejournal.com profile] fandomsecrets whenever they need something new to talk about. By this point I'm very glad I left. (Seriously, who cares if somebody thinks CLAMP is overrated? People are allowed to have negative opinions.)

More Spam from the OP

(Anonymous) 2008-01-16 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Not a member of [livejournal.com profile] clamp_rants actually. I'm really not crazy about the community, so I'm not 'falling back' on this just to give it ammunition, thanks.

[identity profile] crackjaw.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
What? No, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about how it seems like every time there's an opinion expressed here that possibly contradicts canon/accepted fanon or even upsets the fans' delicate sensibilities (the aforementioned "I think CLAMP is overrated" sentiment) it seems like it's ranted about over there. I'm all for the discussion you're having, keep it up. (Also, your opinion isn't exactly unpopular, so.)
Edited 2008-01-16 04:26 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2008-01-16 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, okay. Getting tired makes me sound a bit bitchy, I just realized, haha. And I know I don't have an unpopular opinion.

[identity profile] crackjaw.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, no problem, happens to all of us. And I feel you--I felt the same way until I realized it wasn't just the bad press that was pissing me off. Just gotta find the right circles is all.

[identity profile] dewdropinn.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, agreed. ♥

Yep. That's exactly why I left too. It's a bit too wanky now.

edited for moar appropriate icon

[identity profile] crackjaw.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? I think a lot of people left for the same reason; the flow of posts has slowed down recently, it seems.
Edited 2008-01-16 04:25 (UTC)

Re: edited for moar appropriate icon

[identity profile] dewdropinn.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
sdfjghsl icon = MADE OF WIN ♥

I'm honestly surprised I stayed as long as I did. It got to the point that I was kind of scared of replying to anything out of fear of starting wank.