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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-20 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #3029 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3029 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Peep Show]


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03.
[Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis]


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04.
[Alexis Denisof]


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05.
[Guardians of the Galaxy]



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08.
[John Green]


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09.
[Outlander]


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10.
[Selfie]


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11.
[Emilio Estevez]


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12.
[His Dark Materials]


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13.
[Star Wars, Twilight]


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[Faux Pas]


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15.
[Mass Effect]


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16.
[The Black Lillies]










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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-20 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be a valid and important point to make if anyone here was claiming Edward was a hero. But since nobody is...?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-20 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean from a writing perspective.

The books treat Edward as a hero, as the ideal man. But he's done so evil things and the way he treats Bella is abusive, though the book glosses over this.

Whereas with Star Wars, the films acknowledge that Anakin's fucked up, that he's done some horribly evil things, and that his relationship with Padmé is doomed to failure.

I guess I just hate how they're always said to be equally awful because, to me, there's no way they're even in the same league since Star Wars is so much more self-aware.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
Jacob is the one the books treat as the better man (or rather he thinks he us) and sane, healthy alternative for Bella but he ends up being the one abusive with her and a big hypocrite.

Edward's boring and an ass his own way but he knows he is not prince charming or a hero and doesn't pretend to be.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
+ DA not the ayrt
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[personal profile] chamonix 2015-04-21 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
Edward's boring and an ass his own way but he knows he is not prince charming or a hero and doesn't pretend to be.

Edward might not, but the narrative does. It's made perfectly plain that Bella - and by extension, the author, and hopefully the reader - thinks that Edward is self-deprecating, beating himself up over trifles, and that only adds to his perfection. Look, he's so modest, too! He agonises about all these silly little things that don't matter!

For all its cheesy melodrama, I never thought the overreaching narrative of Star Wars excused Anakin for his actions. Yes, he was ultimately redeemed, but that didn't wipe the slate of his previous crimes. If he'd lived, Luke would have had a huge dilemma on his hands.