[ SECRET POST #3033 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3033 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Kushiel's Legacy]


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03.
[The Young Sherlock Holmes]


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04.
[Blake's 7]


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05.
[Doc Martin]


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07. http://i.imgur.com/XWQxPJy.jpg?2
[linked for close up shot of naked butt]


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08.
[Disney]


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10.
[Phantom of the Opera/Twilight]


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11.
[Captain America]


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12.
[Spec Ops: The Line]


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13. [SPOILERS for Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn]



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14. [SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Episode VII)]



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15. [WARNING for incest]

[Folgers Coffee Commercial]


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16. [WARNING for suicide, emotional abuse]



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17. [WARNING for suicide]



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18. [WARNING for abusive parenting, domestic abuse]




















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #433.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[intrigueing]

My issue is that I don't understand WHY they want to ship these things in a healthy way. I mean, isn't the entire reason unhealthy ships are appealing is precisely because they're fucked up? The taboo, not-like-real-life, id-based longings unhealthy relationships tap into? So wouldn't portraying the ship as healthy just ruin all of that? IDGI.

[sarillia]

I sometimes wonder the same sort of thing about people who take the concept of kink-shaming so far that they don't want to hear the slightest negative thing about their kink. But if you like it because it's fucked up, then why is it insulting for someone to say it's fucked up? I mean, obviously people do get really insulting about it and I get why people get offended at that point, but that's not always how it goes.

[(Anonymous)]

Some people really have trouble acknowledging that they like fucked up things, I see it all the time when people want to justify liking villains. I always say who cares if you like a villain, it's fiction, it doesn't reflect who you are as a person. But for some reason there are people out there that think if they find any level of morally reprehensible behavior entertaining that reflects on their character. So they think they shouldn't like fucked up relationships in fiction even though they do.

And then there are also people who just DON'T SEE IT and might truly believe that the relationship isn't fucked up.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, this. People have trouble acknowledging inner darkness, the shadow, all of that.

[a_potato]

I think that's it for a lot of people. I also think that there's some who deal with unhealthy and scary things by turning them into something that's less unhealthy or less scary. It's almost a way of...taming the demons, so to speak? They fantasize away the negative in order to feel like they're overcoming or destroying it.

[(Anonymous)]

Very much agree, and I think this is behind many fantasies that some people are squicked out by or find too dark and disturbing, too.

[a_potato]

Oh yeah, definitely.

[(Anonymous)]

I would understand this perspective better if it was expressed as character development -- the relationship developing into something healthier over time -- rather than retroactively claiming it never was unhealthy.

[a_potato]

I have seen some people approach this sort of thing in that way. When it comes to those who don't, I think it might sometimes be too much for them to acknowledge the unhealthy bits. They've got to wipe it all out in order for the fantasy to have the intended effect.

[(Anonymous)]

Christine in original novel even acknowledges the id-based desires Erik rouses in her (though not using that word).

Some people are plain ashamed of liking villains or fucked up things. And a lot of Phantom fans discover it as teenagers, when it's fairly normal to justify all our feelings as totally reasonable. People who see Erik/Christine as healthy are just desperate to.