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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-24 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3033 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3033 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Kushiel's Legacy]


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03.
[The Young Sherlock Holmes]


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04.
[Blake's 7]


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05.
[Doc Martin]


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07. http://i.imgur.com/XWQxPJy.jpg?2
[linked for close up shot of naked butt]


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[Disney]


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10.
[Phantom of the Opera/Twilight]


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11.
[Captain America]


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12.
[Spec Ops: The Line]


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13. [SPOILERS for Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn]



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14. [SPOILERS for Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Episode VII)]



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15. [WARNING for incest]

[Folgers Coffee Commercial]


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16. [WARNING for suicide, emotional abuse]



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17. [WARNING for suicide]



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18. [WARNING for abusive parenting, domestic abuse]




















Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: AOU interviews

(Anonymous) 2015-04-25 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, there seems to be a bit of a logic fail going on here.

* BUT THEY'RE FICTIONAL.

Literally nobody is arguing that we should care about fictional people being insulted. You're missing the bigger picture: people are upset because Renner and Evans implied that a woman who is sexually promiscuous is a slut. They (and you) are failing to see that their specific example can be and often is applied to the female population at large in very ugly, discriminatory ways, which is why it would've been a good idea not to mention it at all.

* But calling Nick Fury "nigger" isn't the same as calling Natasha a slut!

That's beside the point. Your argument was that there's no harm, no foul because a fictional character is involved. If you then try to argue that racist slurs are somehow different or worse than sexual slurs, you've taken yourself out of your original argument and are now arguing about about the qualitative content of the slur itself. By your own reasoning, it shouldn't matter if it's being applied to a fictional character. So in that sense, the example is an apt one.

* But men are sometimes called sluts too Captain Kirk blah blah blah!"

Yep. We shouldn't call anyone sluts based on their sexual activity, but there really is no denying that there is far greater stigma for women than for men. Society often speaks of a man's sexual conquests (very telling term!) if he has many partners, but when a woman has many partners, she's spoken of as disloyal, so driven by her lusts that she's unable to discriminate, out to lead men on, etc. In fact, it's a bit weird you felt the need to bring it up. It's like when people have having a discussion about how badly African Americans were treated during slavery and the civil rights movement and there's that one person who has to headbutt their way into the thread to complain that white people have it bad too so therefore nobody should be upset.




Look, I don't know you. I don't know if this is a case of you really, really not getting this at all, or if you're deliberately trying to reduce this to an absurd strawman (wharrgarbl fictional people it's fiction whaarrrghh!) to dismiss the objections people have to women being called sluts. I guess the former is slightly better than the latter, but it's still really odd this is eluding you.