[ SECRET POST #3034 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3034 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I just don't understand why people find it so acceptable to constantly denigrate slashers when these are the same people who get upset at seeing fictional characters degraded.

Like...you do understand that fictional characters aren't real, right?

And thus the way slashers are attacked is inherently more misogynistic than anything you could say against a character?

Just...I've seen people tell slashers they have internalized misogyny for saying a female character is annoying. But then those same people will turn around and insult slashers by calling them crazy perverts.

Just....wut.

[(Anonymous)]

Well aren't we defensive! Apparently I'm pulling my own anecdotes and experiences out of my ass. I'm just gonna throw those away and assume every subculture is equally nice and lovely to protect your precious feelings from now on, internet stranger.

[(Anonymous)]

What?

I didn't say your anecdote was untrue. I just find it utterly baffling that so often, when it comes to slashers, there's accusations of misogyny on the slashers' parts. But then people denigrate slashers in really misogynistic ways.

I just don't understand it at all.

People say that the misogyny of the fandom is a problem but then have no issue with being misogynistic towards the fandom itself.

But...yes...my feelings are precious, I guess? I don't even know what you're trying to say there.

[(Anonymous)]

Not all slashers are women??????
And I couldn't give less of a shit what gender they are to begin with. Holy hell I have every right to feel uncomfortable and avoid people who have obvious biases against female characters. I don't owe those people anything.

[(Anonymous)]

Well...when you're calling slashers "cunts" and "silly little girls" and "hysterical fangirls" that's rather misogynistic.

Although, you're correct that this ignores the male slash fans.

But I don't believe for a second that people who are calling slash fan cunts dislike slash because of the misogynistic behavior of some in the fandom (like some slash fans who demonize female characters or call them bitches).

Here's the thing though: yes, some slash fans are misogynistic. But there are also het fans that are quite misogynistic (see: demonization of rival female characters or the demonization of real female slash fans).

And I don't understand why some are so willing to label all slash fans as misogynistic while not confronting the fact that there's misogyny in all sectors of fandom and that some of that misogyny is worse precisely because it's directed at real women and not female characters.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Note that I mean generalized "you" not YOU personally.

I've just observed this behavior in my fandoms (terrible behavior by both slash fans and slash-hating het fans).

[(Anonymous)]

>Well...when you're calling slashers "cunts" and "silly little girls" and "hysterical fangirls" that's rather misogynistic.

When
on
earth
did
I
ever
do
that.

I have no interest discussing the topic with a thick motherfucker who projects this hard.

[(Anonymous)]

See my added note above.

I meant a generalized "you" because I am puzzled by the fact that misogyny of slash fans will cause some people to abandon slash.

But misogyny in het fans rarely seems to have this effect even though both groups display this.

[were_lemur]

My theory is that it's due to a glitch in the human brain, which evolved to deal with a world filled with people we interact with by seeing and hearing, rather than text on a screen.

Even though we know consciously that the character on the TV screen is not an actual human being, and there is an actual human being who wrote the fanfic, our subconscious treats the character (who we can see and hear) as a real person, and doesn't acknowledge the writer of the fic, who we can't perceive in the same way.

So when someone kills off the character to keep her from getting in the way of their preferred pairing, or has her act horribly so her canon love interest will be justified in leaving her for the non-canon option, that feels like an injury done to an actual person. But since the writer not perceived directly, it's easier to justify calling her a bunch of names, because to the subconscious, she's not "real."

[(Anonymous)]

Mekkio, come on. Didn't you say plenty about this yesterday?

[(Anonymous)]

Who the fuck is Mekkio?

Okay...I'll stop writing walls of text and just ask outright.

Why does the misogyny some slash fans display cause people to quit reading slash and yet you never hear of the reverse?

I've never heard of anyone who stopped reading het due to the misogyny that some het fans display. And some het fans do display misogyny (towards rival female love interests and female slash fans). So what gives?

[(Anonymous)]

That's because misandry doesn't exist, duh.