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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-26 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3035 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3035 ⌋

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dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: f!s, I need some perspective :( (Arthur Conan Doyle drama)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-04-26 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I know very well that no one is perfect, which is precisely the reason I included the first paragraph. There are things I can accept as normal human flaws, and then there are things that make me not want to associate myself with the person who did them. It's the same IRL. There IS a line, and I think that "consciously hurting your own children who just lost their mother" is pretty far beyond that line for me.

And again, that is not how my relationship with the Sherlock Holmes canon works. A great part of my love for many Holmes stories is directly based on what they say about their author's character. I've never been simply a Holmesian, but a Holmesian and a Conan Doyle fan.

Re: f!s, I need some perspective :( (Arthur Conan Doyle drama)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-26 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
What we're trying to say is that enjoying someone's work =/= associating with the author.

Look, Bob Marley's widow has said that he raped her. John Lennon was an abusive asshole. Carl Sagan was an entitled, pompous asshat who bought into his celebrity (and was a terrible teacher as well).

But that doesn't mean you can't enjoy their work.

We're advising you to dissociate your love of Sherlock from Holmes himself and to recognize that people are deeply, deeply flawed. Also, it may be that later in his, he came to regret his actions and tried to make amends for them. Or that there were extenuating circumstances. We can never know the complete truth and the devil's in the details.

Yes, it's heartbreaking to have someone we love turn out to be deeply, deeply flawed, but you have to learn to live with the things you can't change. For you, that might mean abandoning him and his works entirely, but I think you would be better served in simply admiring the work for what it is.

Death of the Author is, to me, an important concept not just because it allows readers to come to their own conclusions without the authority of the author hanging over them but also because it lets a work stand on its own, without the author's flaws and imperfections hanging over it.

I know LGBT people, for example, who still love Ender's Game despite how awful Orson Scott Card is.

Re: f!s, I need some perspective :( (Arthur Conan Doyle drama)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-26 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

And what Dreemyweird seems to be saying is that they are/were as much a fan of the author as they were of the work.

Death of the author isn't really relevant to that.