[ SECRET POST #3036 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3036 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Big Bang Theory]


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03.
[Jamie Oliver]


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04.
[Jed and Leo, The West Wing]


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05.
[Shipwrecked Comedy (YouTube)]


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06.
[Conan O'Brien]


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07.
[Star Trek]


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08.
[Regular Show]


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09.
[Anne of Green Gables]


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10.
[Tintin]


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11.
[Ciel nosurge]


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12.
[Angel]


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13.
[Dragon Age]


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14.
(Joann Fletcher)


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15. http://i.imgur.com/xEVbfF2.png
[John Ridley, cut on request for blatant racial slurs and stuff]













Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[diet_poison]

But maybe having one or more of the main three portrayed as a geek just like the geeky guys is important to me. (It is.)

[blitzwing]

And that's fine. That is a valid concern and desire.

But it is not valid to claim that "the label of "true geek" is completely limited to the men." because there has been geeky female characters.

[diet_poison]

Not really. Academically accomplished =/= geeky. Face it, the main guys are portrayed in a way that the women are not, and that bothers me.

[blitzwing]

I am not talking about academically accomplished (although your point there is completely negatable).

I'm talking about the female characters we've been shown that love comic books, and nerdy things like that.

Face it, you don't watch the show and you're not that familiar with it. And yet you'll speak authoritatively about it and its portrayal of female characters.

[diet_poison]

Where did I claim I watched the show? I specifically said I didn't. And I don't in part because I don't like the major differences in how the men and women are portrayed wrt nerdy hobbies. Which I already said - and which paying attention to what other people are saying is enough to figure out.

[blitzwing]

Where did I claim I watched the show? I specifically said I didn't.

And yet you claim you know how the show portrays men and women. By listening to what other people say. And yet you didn't even know that the show had female characters who were comic book fans.

You don't have to like the show. But to claim that you dislike it because it never shows female nerds? That's simply not true, and it's not a claim you should be making since you're not familiar with the show.

[diet_poison]

I didn't claim it never shows female nerds. It does not portray female geekiness the way it does male geekiness; it makes them very distinctly different and reserves a lot of fandom-related geekiness for the men.

[blitzwing]

You said: "it does annoy me to have a setting where the label of "true geek" is completely limited to the men."

By claiming that a role is completely limited to X group, you are de facto claiming that the role is never given to Y group.

Your definition of "True geek" is amorphous and shifting. Like math and science? "Not a true geek!" Love comic books and drawing fanart? "Not a true geek! You have to be every nerd stereotype rolled into one to be a real geek."

You haven't even watched a significant chunk of the show, and yet you continue to speak authoritatively about how it portrays male and female geekiness. You've admitted that your (baseless) beliefs about this show are based on hearsay and not your own observations. And you just keep shifting goalposts so you can keep Geek Gatekeeping on people.

[diet_poison]

All I am saying is that the men are portrayed as significantly more geeky (and yes, the stereotype of a "true geek" - I'm not talking about *my* definition) throughout, and that doesn't interest me.

That is all.

I'm not sure if you're specifically being defensive of BBT or trying to pick apart my reasons for disliking it because they bother you or trying to say I need to watch the show, but that's my assessment and yes, it's based on hearsay, and I'm sorry if you don't like that? I have enough stuff to do to watch another show when I've heard even a little bit about it that makes me think I won't like it, because there are so many other things I'd rather watch/play/read/otherwise consume. I'm not trying to make any authoritative decrees about it, just explaining why *I* (me, yours truly, myself) do not want to watch it.