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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-28 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #3037 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3037 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, take a tip from the OP of #13. If other people like it, they can do it. You don't have to do it. If just seeing it bothers you? That's your problem.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-04-28 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I only mind if it's lore-breaking, like referring to God as "he" in a setting with a creator goddess.
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-04-28 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry that you dislike it and have bad associations with it. But I don't see what makes it different from other kinds of non-canon interpretation that some people like and some dislike, as long as people are being reasonable with it.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Conversely, I am irked when characters who ARE religious in canon, or in a canon where religion is important, are all 100% atheist.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It bugs me, too, and I hate that it bugs me because it shouldn't be any different than any other fan-thought-up trait...

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of non-canon things that happen in fanfic that I don't but you know what I do? I click the BACK button. No one is forcing you to read things you don't like and who are you or I to deprive someone of something they do like?

BTW I like when religion is added if it's done right. Seeing a favorite character having an existentialist crisis and them coming out of it stronger and with faith is really cool. But if that's not your thing that's OK with me. Find something you like. Life is short and fanfic is plentiful.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I hit the Back button, too. Doesn't mean it still doesn't annoy me.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-29 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Same here.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-28 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
If you write a fic where a character is Ambiguously-Christian in canon and make them Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, etc. I don't really care

This also qualifies if you decide to head canon a character as non-Christian (I actually read a Jewish!Phil Coulson head canon a while ago, I actually thought it was pretty neat especially because they managed to pick out a few things from canon that would support this)

I just get really pissed when characters that aren't shown to be religious in canon start going into full on SUPERHARDCOREBIBLEJESUS-MODE when it's 1) out of place in the fic 2) is really OOC for them.

Like when I read an XMFC one-shot where Charles recited the entirety of the Hail Mary when it made absolutely no sense in the fic.

(And this is coming from a former-Catholic who went to Catholic school for 9 years, is still a spiritual person and has several friends who are practicing Catholics)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-29 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, so much. If it's a hole in canon, fill it any way you like. Or like the comment below says, if it makes sense for the canon, sure.

But usually IME when characters are made religious in fic, it's to turn them into the author's mouthpiece, and they start behaving really OOC. Like the fic I read (part of) once where Hermione was desperate to make sure all the Weasleys accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. (It was all the more jarring because it was very obvious the author was a particular mostly-American denomination.)
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[personal profile] shadowwolf75 2015-04-29 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Even worse, when a character is turned into a hardcore bible thumper in a setting where Christianity doesn't even exist. Like most scifi fandoms where there is no Earth and thus no associated religions.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-29 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I've never encountered Biblethump fic. That must be special.

Only sort of religious fic I can ever recall encountering were a few Justice League fics that had Blue Beetle II as Jewish... and he wasn't particularly devout, it was just a minor thing.

--Rogan

(Anonymous) 2015-04-29 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, but I'm going to continue assuming a character from 1930's Mexico is Catholic. When it makes sense, it makes sense.
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Just gonna leave this here

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-04-29 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Edited 2015-04-29 01:21 (UTC)

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-29 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Image: medieval painting of a witch burning

Text: Nothing annoys me more than openly religious fancharacters - especially if none of the canon characters are openly religious or the world in question is a parallel version of our reality, where “real” religions don’t even exist.

Same goes for interpreting canon characters as religious or cosplaying them as such when there is no indication for that in the source material. I wouldn’t even mind it, if only there was a way for me to not be faced with such things at all. (It’s nice to have a place to escape to from the issues caused by religion, even if that’s fandom.)

(Anonymous) 2015-04-29 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm atheist and I'm the opposite. I find it fascinating to see different interpretations of the characters. It's no different than your average high school AU, only it raises many more philosophical questions and so much more interesting to me. I don't only like it in AUs either.

I'm planning a long fic myself in which the characters of my nonreligious fandom canon are all instead members of the religion I was brought up with.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-29 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I agree. Shitty Christian fanart isn't even as bad, because it's hilarious and everyone agrees it's stupid anyways. But drawing fanart of characters in hijabs is somehow ~liberating~, and deserves praise and reblogs, right?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-29 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
What constitutes Christian fanart?

(Anonymous) 2015-04-30 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Characters praying to Jesus, for instance? Anything that implies that the characters are Christians, or that Christianity is a thing in a canon where it clearly does not belong.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-04-29 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
My only objection to religious characters is if the religion does not fit the setting. I want people in [western] Middle Earth worshiping Eru Ilúvatar and venerating the Valar, and people in Thedas worshiping the Maker and Andraste, the Creators (Elven gods), or being adherents of the Qun. (Just to give examples from my two major fandoms.)