[ SECRET POST #3038 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3038 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

But limiting profit can relate to limiting creation. If people can't make a full time living at art or writing, then there's far less art and writing for us out there in the world.

And I agree that both should respect one another, but it's not how the world works, and it's CERTAINLY not how the law works. I just find this moral outrage over small time artist interesting when large companies are doing things that are far more illegal and far more harmful on a grand scale. And certainly if you're outraged about a fanartist or fic writer making money in a way you question, then you shouldn't go out and buy a Disney movie or shop at Walmart, because you're supporting questionable behavior there too.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I don't know, there's been millions on fanworks before this trend so I'm not sure not being paid limits creations that much.

If anything, it may be the opposite since it can present BNFs as so good they deserve to get paid and everyone else like shit that doesn't, which can be far more demoralizing (as it creates a new layer of difference between BNFs and NNFs) that being ignored in a fandom.

The thing with big companies is that all of them have damaging practices that fuck-up non rich people and buying from smaller companies with less shitty business practices isn't always possible.
I still think that not supporting the normalization of such practices is better than keep repeating "but others do it" as an excuse to support things like lack of respect for intellectual creations.

fwiw I'm not a Disney fan and Walmart doesn't even exist here.

[(Anonymous)]

People were getting paid before this trend too though, they sold fanwork at conventions and Japan has had a doujinshi culture for years and years. You may not have seen it as much because there's more "reblog/share so I can get commissions!" posts but it's been happening for a long time.

But if people can't make a living at art (which was the overall question) they may stop making as much art. A lot of fanartists go on to become professional artists, so they keep drawing, but the ones that don't tend to produce a lot less. Even ones who don't consider themselves professional often still go to conventions, and if they couldn't make money at conventions (even if it's just to break even because conventions come with a lot of costs) then they wouldn't be producing some of the work you see. How often do you see a post that says "Made this for X or Y convention."

And personally I'd rather support a small business who does less harm over a large one who does far more harm then disrespecting copyright. And if you don't want to support the practices, again, don't buy Disney, or Marvel, or WB or Dreamworks... etc etc etc... Go to conventions and buy someone's original art. Tell people this matters, because the problem is the number of people who buy fanart vastly outnumbers the people who support original work.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. It's gross to trash young artists for fanart and then happily go to the next billion budget movie that's based off an already existing world!

[(Anonymous)]

If you knew anything about doujinshis you would know that:
a) It's a physical product and b) most circles don't do it for the money, since very few make a profit at all.

Please notice the keyword here is "profit" not "money".

"Go to conventions and buy someone's original art."
That sounds good, actually (not that I can do it, since conventions aren't a thing here), but what's the point on talking about original stuff when we're talking about selling fanworks? (Digital ones, on top of that).