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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-07 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3046 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3046 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Beyonce Knowles]


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[Blake's 7]


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[Spec Ops: The Line]


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[Cell Block Tango]


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[Mortal Kombat]


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[Captain America/Kingsman: The Secret Service]


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[Blake's 7/"Orbit"]


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[Henry V]















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Re: OP

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-07 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I can accept that. It sure would contribute to Walker's barely-restrained psychotic break (I'm of the opinion that he was already starting to lose it even before the boots hit the ground, which to me better explains a lot of the early events and why they didn't just immediately turn around and head for home when they first encountered superior numbers).

And yeah, well, as you mentioned it's not a very shippy game. Even as FPS games go.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-07 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The level of obsession on Walker's end is pretty...hardcore.

Walker sees Konrad's face on a billboard in the FIRST chapter. And then he sees him again on that ENORMOUS advertisement hanging off the side of a skyscraper in I think Chapter 3.

Plus when I look at their character profiles on the official website, Lugo's seems to show a pretty chill guy who likes his job and isn't really attached at the moment. I actually think Adams comes across as someone with a family waiting back home for him.

''When I'm on the job, I'm not a person. I'm a tool, and I have to adapt to whatever the mission requires. If I bring my baggage into the field, it'll just get in the way. Only thing that matters are the words 'Mission Accomplished.' The sooner I hear those words, the sooner I can go home and get back to being me."

But then Walker's well...Walker's basically married to the job. His little blurb:

"I don't want to say being a soldier is a way of life, because honestly, that's the kind of bullshit recruiters sling at high-school kids. But there is something to it… You gotta understand, being soldier isn't like having a job. You're just one gear in a much larger machine. It's not a way of life, it's how we're built. We're just not wired for the day-to-day civilian world. We go in, we do what's necessary, then we die."

Really gives me that impression. Plus that last line...it heavily references a conversation with Konrad in Afghanistan when Konrad told him that soldiers like them can't go home. And it seems like Walker really internalized those words.

But even then, I recognize that that's really no basis for shipping them. There's absolutely nothing romantic or sexual in this game. At all.

Re: OP

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-07 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, not to harsh the squee, but I read those inferences as misplaced hero worship contributing to a psychotic episode brought on by severe PTSD and physical exhaustion. If you really wanted to squint you might take those signs to mean something more romantic. I guess you could argue that the confines of extended military service would predispose Walker to engaging in something along the lines of opportunistic homosexuality (or heteroflexibility if you prefer), but there's pretty much nothing to directly suggest that Walker is fixating for any other reason than the fact that he's heading for a mental health crisis.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-07 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Total agreement here. I know I'm basically pulling this ship out of thin air.

I think I'm probably predisposed to shipping it because I've done the hero worship/crush song and dance myself in regards to an older military guy.

He was also really happily married and I respected him FAR too much to ever even give him the inkling that I felt that way but it's one of things where you find a person is so amazing that you can't help but put them on a pedestal a bit (as unhealthy as that is).

With Walker, I recognize that his obsession is not in any way characterized by romantic or sexual feelings. I guess I ship it because I feel it COULD. Plus, Walker's sexuality isn't really an issue since we never get any idea of where he stands. (We know Konrad loves his wife and Lugo likes the ladies given his "sexy lady, dead body ratio" line but no one else's sexuality is ever really touched upon).

Re: OP

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-08 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Walker's sexuality isn't really an issue since we never get any idea of where he stands

Annnd this would be the number one reason I slash so many modern military FPSs. Good god, you just make it so easy. Nobody ever mentions wives or families so I just have to imagine the grizzled, 30-something, hard-bodied military men are boning each other.

I mean, they have to be boning someone.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, they have to be boning someone

omg u acephobe

Re: OP

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-08 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't met too many asexuals in the military, and certainly not infantry, but ...I guess they could exist.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

That reminds me of this I read the other day: http://imgur.com/gallery/hQ0Xp

My favorite was how all the soldier had hemorrhoids because they were having sex without lube.

sidenote: I didn't make that comment about aces either - that was a different anon.

But yes, modern military shooters basically force you to slash if you want to include any romance/sexuality.

If you look at Spec Ops, there are no female characters at all really. There's the refugee women but that doesn't really work (on so many levels). And we know Konrad has a wife, but she never appears in the game so...it's slash or nothing. Unless you want to create a female OC.

Re: OP

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-08 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Well, we don't know that Konrad has a wife. Walker is just about the most unreliable narrator of all time, so Konrad may or may not have a wife.

I guess it's possible to have a het ship with some of the Call Of Duty games... but yeah.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
True but I think it has more support than most anything else.

The first piece of intel you get is Konrad's confession letter where he calls himself "Husband of Elizabeth and father of Jeremy" -- that was right at the beginning of the game, before Walker had even shot anyone yet. So if that's not real then nothing is.

Of course, given that it's Spec Ops, that's a definite possibility I'll admit.