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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-08 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3047 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3047 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Suzanne from Orange is the New Black]


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[Soul Caliber V]


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(Rick and Morty)


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[Love The Way You Lie - Eminem feat. Rihanna]


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[Bones]


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11. [SPOILERS for Grimm]
[WARNING for rape]



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12. [WARNING for rape]

[Eddie Murphy, Bill Cosby]


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13. [WARNING for incest/underage]



























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(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah...the problem is that I still deeply loathe the pairing because it skeeves me out.

I have no problem with the characters as individuals but if they get together in the film, my opinion of them will plummet.

Unless Steve doesn't know that Sharon is related to Peggy.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Unless Steve doesn't know that Sharon is related to Peggy.

That doesn't seem any better to me. Keeping something like that a secret would be terrible on Sharon's part.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well yeah but my opinion of Sharon's gonna take a hit regardless.

At least if Steve is ignorant, then I won't think any less of him.

But since Sharon already knows...well...there's no way they can get together that won't make her seem creepy to me.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"my opinion of them will plummet."

That really rubs me the wrong way. Like, there's nothing morally wrong with it. It's something that you aren't personally comfortable with, but to start disliking other people for being personally comfortable with it? That's silly.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-08 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really?

If some guy told me he was dating his sister...well...I certainly wouldn't see him the same way.

Not that he'd be a bad person, but I couldn't relate to him at all.

I'm talking about them as CHARACTERS. Steve would no longer be my favorite if he got with Sharon knowing that she was Peggy's niece because it would create an enormous disconnect for me. And thus, yes, my opinion of him as a character would plummet because he would be someone whose thought process I couldn't follow any more.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
You're only able to have positive views of people you personally relate to?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
They're CHARACTERS. Being able to relate to a character (or, at least, understand their thought process) is a big part of what makes them compelling for me.

Having a major disconnect with Steve is going to make him a much less compelling character for me -- which would inevitably happen if he got with Sharon.

I still don't like, for example, that Natasha was basically throwing Sharon at Steve at the end of the Winter Soldier but never mentioned her relation to Peggy (because I don't believe that Natasha doesn't know).

Characters don't have to always be nice, perfect people, but I'd at least like to be able to understand the way they think.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but you used a hypothetical real person as an example? That makes it seem like you don't like people IRL that you can't relate to, either.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Right, but, like I said -- I wouldn't be able to relate to him or understand his thought process. That doesn't matter because he's REAL. But for a character, it's pretty damn important to me.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Now, I don't really think they'll get together in the movies and I don't necessarily want them to.

But, really? Sharon got the tiniest bit of characterization in TWS. Her and Steve could be made for each other for all we know. And you would fault him for falling in love with her just because she's related to Peggy?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
It's creepy to me. I'm sorry. But he was in love with her AUNT.

Granted, if he doesn't know about the relation that's one thing (and I find it creepier on Sharon's end to be honest) but it just skeeves me out. I'm sorry.

I've said I don't think it makes them bad people. But I find it creepy.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Great aunt. Which is another level of remove from aunt, and makes it even less likely that they were incredibly close.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
She says aunt in the film. Regardless, I find it creepy. You don't have to, but I do. Sorry.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
She's like in her 20s, maybe 30s though. Peggy was about the same age in the 1940s. Peggy has to be a great-aunt at the very least.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why translating comic book timelines to movies tends to fall apart...

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Steve dating an old flame's niece =/= a guy dating his sister in the slightest bit.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I know. It was an example. They're not equivalent but most people find the former skeevy and creepy.

I find the latter one to be so (though, obviously, to a lesser degree).

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Nitpick, but you got former and latter mixed up.

At least, I hope so, because otherwise you're saying you find sibling incest more palatable than someone dating a relation of their ex.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
ah yeah sorry about that

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Unless you're intentionally saying you find real world brother/sister incest less skeevy and creepy than someone dating their old flame's distant family member, I'd say you have the meanings of "former" and "latter" mixed up/confused.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
see above