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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-08 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3047 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3047 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Suzanne from Orange is the New Black]


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[Soul Caliber V]


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(Rick and Morty)


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[Love The Way You Lie - Eminem feat. Rihanna]


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[Bones]


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11. [SPOILERS for Grimm]
[WARNING for rape]



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12. [WARNING for rape]

[Eddie Murphy, Bill Cosby]


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13. [WARNING for incest/underage]



























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Re: Anons need not apply

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

True, and as you might note I did acknowledge in my earlier comment that of course, not all of tumblr is a fandom community. But fandom communities DO exist on tumblr, and I guess I'm assuming, considering the context this discussion is happening in, that we're talking about tagging within fandoms (that is, people posting negative opinions about a fandom they're active in).

Obviously, there are going to be posts in a tag from people outside the fandom. It's not a super regimented system, by any means. Nobody's really going to police every use of a fandom tag to make sure it ~meets the standards of the fandom (alert: sarcasm.)

What we're talking about is actually a much more straightforward issue. If you're making a post containing hate for a particular thing or character, if you KNOW that people who like that thing would rather people posting hate about it not use a particular tag......why do you need to use that tag? Surely, surely, that's just common courtesy.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

Re: Anons need not apply

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-09 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
considering the context this discussion is happening in, that we're talking about tagging within fandoms (that is, people posting negative opinions about a fandom they're active in).

You assumed incorrectly. People that are not in the fandom but are tagging hate will get as much ire as a person in fandom tagging hate; unless you're in a very small fandom people aren't going to go "Oh yeah that's Jean I know she's not in this fandom, I'll let it pass."

I don't think I've ever seen anyone argue for exceptions to the "do not hate!" argument.
Edited 2015-05-09 00:39 (UTC)

Re: Anons need not apply

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
da

In my fandoms, people who are obviously just n00bs who don't know any better usually just get zero notes on their tagged hate. It's the people who are doing it to stir shit or ~make a statement~ about the evil fandom hivemind silencing free speech who get people telling them to chill. And even then, people are caring less and less as the website ages. Most tagged hate doesn't even net a derisive gif anymore.

Re: Anons need not apply

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

because it's relevant and not all tags come with explicit rules and no one has the right to enforce rules on a tag that isn't a community and able to be used by anyone???

you can't even compare it to posting hate on a dw community because dw communities don't have rules against hate, if you love the show but hated an episode you ARE allowed to post rants in most general communities about it unless it's bashing a character on a character-fan community or something

are you being purposely obtuse?? i cant even tell
blitzwing: ([magi] aladdin)

Re: Anons need not apply

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-09 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
are you being purposely obtuse?? i cant even tell

They might be trolling. After all, they did deliberately pretend I was talking about "an inanimate website's feelings" when they knew very well that people commonly refer to staff's decisions by the website's name.

Re: Anons need not apply

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Well, maybe we're understanding "hate" differently. When I hear "hate," I'm not thinking "criticism of an episode I didn't like" or "rant about something that bugs me about the show," I'm thinking straight up unapologetically rude hate like in OP's example. And while obviously there aren't explicit rules for tags and nobody has a right to enforce this stuff, people do, I think, have a responsibility to be civil, and in my mind the civil thing is not to put your hate into the generic tag, because that's neither reasonable nor civil.
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Re: Anons need not apply

[personal profile] were_lemur 2015-05-09 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
There are plenty of stans who will scream and flail about "hate" at any criticism, no matter how measured.

Re: Anons need not apply

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
This was one of the main reasons I left a recent fandom. It's hard to be a fan when you can't even breath about an adaption-created plot hole or a literal two-frame animation looking silly without people calling "hater".