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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-08 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3047 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3047 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Suzanne from Orange is the New Black]


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[Soul Caliber V]


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(Rick and Morty)


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[Love The Way You Lie - Eminem feat. Rihanna]


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[Bones]


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11. [SPOILERS for Grimm]
[WARNING for rape]



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12. [WARNING for rape]

[Eddie Murphy, Bill Cosby]


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13. [WARNING for incest/underage]



























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(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of a weird case - it started off with the character deliberately being written as slowly succumbing to the whole 'we who fight monsters live to become them' thing, then LKH did a 180 and started buying into protagonist-centered morality 100%, so in later books you have the narrative furiously justifying the character pulling the same sort of shit reserved for the villains in the early books.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-05-09 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds like it would be pretty bait-and-switch-y to read.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Probably for anyone who started to read them now, yeah. I picked them up when they were still ridiculous-but-entertaining 90s urban fantasy, so the record-scratch moment hit for me a lot later than it did for people I've spoken to who picked up the series later on.

Just in case you or anyone else is inclined to pick them up for curiousity's sake, I want to stress that the series has always had a pretty high volume of blood and sexual violence. There's more in the later books, because it's not just the villains being horrific, but there honestly isn't a single book in the series I'd recommend to anyone who has squicks or triggers centered around violence or rape.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-05-09 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I doubt I'll ever have any interest in picking them up, but thanks for giving all this information! I wish more people were this helpful in fandom discussions. ;)
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-05-09 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's really sad. The early books were pretty good. It's kind of terrifying seeing an author actually go backwards as far as writing quality, and to such a severe extent.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree with you there. I think part of it's probably the Anne Rice effect with regards to popularity and degree of editorial oversight, but it's honestly kind of worrying what a mess her later work turned into.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I'd argue that the writing quality was never up to much in the first place (see the above comments about repetitive word choices as one example of many reasons why) so there wasn't a noticeable decline there.

What there was, was a major plummeting in storytelling that didn't rely on Godmodding powerups in via Fucktoy Du Jour. The first maybe six or seven AB books at least had some kind of narrative going for them. The MG series was a mess from the start.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'd argue that a major decline in storytelling is a major decline in writing quality. She was never a master of prose, but that's not really the drop anyone's complaining about.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-09 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think there's a difference between being able to put together a good story, and the technical aspects of the writing craft that make it shine - tell a good story and people don't mind so much how you're telling it. LKH had a decent handle on the former before success went to her head.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-05-09 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, Merry Gentry. We picked up the first book in the library as a wee innocent, not knowing a clue about it.

I remember one of the girls being vaguely horrified at how big penises apparently were.

--Rogan