[ SECRET POST #3050 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3050 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Michael Keaton, Eddie Redmayne]


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03.
[Touken Ranbu (DMM)]


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04.
(Watership Down)


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05.
[Republique]


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06.
[Cardcaptor Sakura]


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[Donkey Kong Country (TV series)]


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08.
[Türkisch für Anfänger]


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09.
[Tom Waits (left), Mark Lanegan (right)]















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Comments

Re: slightly ot

[sarillia]

I can never go along with people accusing one book of being a rip off of another. My mind just completely rejects the idea and and focuses on the different things I got out of each book. I did prefer We though.

Re: slightly ot

[herpymcderp]

There's some, uh, fairly solid evidence for this one. But if it doesn't matter to you it doesn't matter, I suppose.

Re: slightly ot

[sarillia]

It's the derogatory connotations of the term "rip off" that I have trouble going along with. The idea that originality is one of if not the most important criteria for judging the worth of a book seems implicit and I disagree with it. And then there's my feeling, which is probably at least a little contradictory, that no matter how similar two books are, each one will automatically contain a more subtle kind of originality as the same story is filtered through each individual writer's world view. You're right that this is really not the best example for me to be making this argument with but a lot of the similarities that have people shouting "rip off!" are just so shallow and I was reminded of that.

I don't know if I'm making sense. I'm sick.

Re: slightly ot

[herpymcderp]

I term it a rip off because there was very little changed when you compare 1984 and We, and nothing improved. The same characters exist, the motivations are nearly identical, the scenes even play out in much the same way... If anything, 1984 is just a shallower copy of Zamyatin's novel. Having read them both, I see it as a personal and impassioned allegory of a man's real life experience being reduced to a pithy metaphor by a less talented author.

But really my major problem here is that despite evidence, Orwell denied having prior knowledge of the existence of We until very late in his career (not long before his death) when he admitted to "having heard of it" before. There were no acknowledgements, and as a result of his status as an author compared to Zamyatin's, 1984 got the recognition that We deserved.

You're right to say that all work is derivative, but there's derivative and then there's what Orwell did.

Re: slightly ot

[(Anonymous)]

agreed

also orwell was a dumb idiot fuckhead and i don't like him