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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-17 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3056 ]


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Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
genderqueer, genderfluid, etc.

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Just don't engage and 99% will stop calling themselves that when they get into adulthood.

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This, except not with genderfluid and genderqueer

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Demisexuals? Is that what were going to say? if so, yes this goes for demisexuals too. And all those other stupid "sexualities" like fraysexual, sapiosexuality, and autochroissexuality!

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
more just

I was thinking about how "I don't understand this and I think it's nonsense but I'm just not going to engage" is a really good strategy in a lot of cases and more people should do it. But then as I was writing my post I also realized that I actually do believe in genderqueer and genderfluid and that kind of thing.

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
What about asexuals?

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
What about them?

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Are they on the same level as demisexuals and those other sexualities mentioned above (which I've never heard of)?

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt but the concept of someone not having a sex drive is perfectly tangible. It only really describes the level of sex drive - some people are hypersexual, some people are asexual, most people are on a spectrum in between.

It only gets special snowflakey when people make complex orientation identities, especially when they act like their oppressed for it just like gay people.

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It only gets special snowflakey when people make complex orientation identities

I pretty much agree. The only "snowflakey" labels that make sense to me are the *romantic ones since someone can be asexual and still interested in relationships, but the other ones, I don't get.

Like sapiosexual (is that the one where you're only interested in people who aren't interested in you?) and choirsexual and fraysexual that someone else mentioned (no idea what those are) just seem a little much.

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-18 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yep.

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
except when that's when they start calling themselves that because just "gay" is too cismale scumbag.
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Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-05-17 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Simply put:



When people tell me I'm not genderqueer, they follow up by telling me I'm just a confused man, and since I'm not a man . . .

(To approach this in a less confrontational way, if I could wave a magic wand and change myself, I'd want to be . . . in the middle, I guess you'd say. Not really male-bodied and not really female-bodied, but androgynous and indeterminate.)

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Except, you Don't have a magic wand and you can't do that. So it's really irrelevant.

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You're irrelevant.
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Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-05-17 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not something I bring up on my own, anyways. I just mention it when other people are talking about it. I don't raise a stink if people refer to me as "he" or "she."

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I understand it, I just think it's bullshit in 98% of the cases who claim to be genderfluid.

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's spoken by a teenager on Tumblr, then it means "I think this identity is cool and wins me SJ points, and since I'm an unique speshul snowflake I'm going to call myself this to make me seem more interesting than I am, because no other teeanger's ever done something like that, amirite?"

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-17 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel it's also the easy way out for those people to co-opt transgender issues and make them all about them without actually being trans. I feel a lot of them use ~genderfluid~ as an excuse why they totally wouldn't transition but they are still totally trans!

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-18 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
and they don't have to do anything in real life or experience any trans-related oppression but they're TOTALLY ~genderqueer~ because today they're wearing a baseball hat and tomorrow they're wearing a dress

Re: What's something you don't understand, even when it's explained to you?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-18 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. It implies that being female and being male are two separate boxes and that if you don't fit perfectly into one of them then you aren't REALLY male/female.

The vast majority of people are not 100% stereotypically masculine or feminine, they have some qualities from both sides. That doesn't make them any less male/female.