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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-19 06:34 pm

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Anywhere with free health care

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-05-20 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Do you have any idea how much of your tax bite relates to health care? And is the quality of care worth it? (I'm paying about $3,000 a year after insurance.)

Re: Anywhere with free health care

(Anonymous) 2015-05-20 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
It is pretty evenly spread so the cost is negligible in individual terms. Quality of care is top notch, best in the world in many cases and better rates of return too. Spend less to get more, that is how socialized medicine works.

Re: Anywhere with free health care

(Anonymous) 2015-05-20 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't quite work that way; tax from all sources goes into the pool of tax revenue and the budget for healthcare comes out of that. Personal tax rates vary according to income etc., while standardized tax rates (e.g. sales taxes, fuel) are the same across the board. Local taxes also go to pay for local services, which may or may not involve healthcare.

The latest comparable figures I can find show that the health services get approximately 27% of the entire tax revenue, but it's impossible to itemize it down to who paid for what.

Re: Anywhere with free health care

(Anonymous) 2015-05-20 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
An American analysed the UK's NHS and came to a pretty solid conclusion on complaints about it. He boiled the complaints down to a pretty basic phrase:
"THIS ROLLS ROYCE ISN'T MOVING FAST ENOUGH!".

Turns out it is pretty good VFM and gives pretty damn good care and complaints are pretty ridiculous.
Article source:
http://uk.businessinsider.com/an-american-uses-britain-nhs-2015-1?r=US
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Re: Anywhere with free health care

[personal profile] ill_omened 2015-05-20 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
"Americans spend $8,362 per capita on healthcare annually, the Brits spend $3,480."

http://uk.businessinsider.com/an-american-uses-britain-nhs-2015-1?r=US#ixzz3adzVA9xj

Obviously people with serious illnesses will really screw with the average for America but I would imagine probably less than you think given the way distributed cost in insurance works.

Re: Anywhere with free health care

(Anonymous) 2015-05-20 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
About 10-15%, but it depends on the individual country council/municipality. Either way I think it's worth it. Could it be better? Yes, but after everything I've heard about the American health system I know we have it damn good.

Re: Anywhere with free health care

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-20 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
Canada hurr. Income tax is higher than the USA, certainly, but in terms of health care costs to the average person only a small portion of that is funnelled into health care vs. total social welfare cost. Last time I checked it was something like 6% of total income tax for the median income.

Now, we have a slightly different system in that you can supplement the universal health care plan with extra insurance (it gets you things like non-essential prescriptions, private rooms in hospitals, dental, optometry, chiropractic etc.) so in terms of the overall coverage the basic government medical plan doesn't cover every single health care service you could ask for. However, it means that things like ambulance service, emergency medical care, surgery, essential prescriptions, doctor's visits, hospital stays (even extended), clinic visits, vaccinations for those deemed medically necessary, physiotherapy, and vital health care is always free.

There are waiting lists as a result (which is actually quite bad compared to smaller countries), but the quality of our hospitals and hospital staff is among the best in the world.