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Apocalypse Now (Theatrical Version)

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I just saw this one recently.

Holy shit was this film amazing. Captain Willard in particular was just really, really well realized. The soundtrack, the cinematrography -- everything about it gave a sense of deepening madness. This movie really got under my skin so much better than any horror film ever has.

My one issue is with Kurtz. There's just something about him I did not like. He felt very "Hollywoodish" -- whereas the rest of the film felt very very earnest to me, he just seemed like a cliché stereotype. Nothing about him felt authentic.

As an example, towards the end, he's ranting about how we teach young men to drop fire on people but won't let them paint the word "fuck" on their airplanes because it's obscene. And it just felt so FAKE to me. Like they were trying so hard to make him "deep."

It didn't help that earlier in the film, I felt that there was a scene that illustrated this far better -- when Willard shoots the injured Vietnamese woman his men want to get help for. And he talks about how he hates the hypocrisy of gunning people down then offering them a bandaid.

That legitimately felt powerful to me -- Kurtz did not.
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Re: Apocalypse Now (Theatrical Version)

[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-05-22 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you liked the movie!

I like Kurtz a lot, but I think I can understand where you're coming from. Brando's definitely very actor-ly in the role. I think, in some ways, he is supposed to be slightly surreal - almost larger than life - rather than necessarily being authentic and just being tied to the specifics of the Vietnam War. That's how I take stuff like the whole montage with the sacrificial cow (IIRC - been a minute since I watched the film). But I can see how that might not work for you.

It is a fantastically well made movie, though - just every element ticking over perfectly. It is absolutely crawling with atmosphere, no doubt.

Re: Apocalypse Now (Theatrical Version)

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-05-22 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
I love this movie, because it was a virtual and symbolic first for so many things in filmmaking. For realistic portrayals of combat psychology, for having a war film that dared to portray US soldiers in a less-than-heroic light (that was a major Hollywood release), for basically creating the formula so many other war films use now (first ten minutes introduce the cast and make them sympathetic by giving them quirks so the audience cares if one happens to die)...

That said, it isn't perfect. This was one of the first films of its kind, but oddly it suffered from one of the things a lot of films still do today: studio execs trying to change the script to make things more appealing for audiences.

There are a number of iconic scenes that almost didn't make the final cut because they were thought to be too disturbing.