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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-22 06:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #3061 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3061 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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11. [SPOILERS for Avengers: Age of Ultron]



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17. [WARNING for violence/assault?]



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18. [WARNING for disturbing imagery/gore]

[Spec Ops: The Line]


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19. [WARNING for child abuse/parental abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #437.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I find it rage inducing. I find you to be an asshole.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Say... isn't it at all possible that OP posted this comic because they too are enraged?

(Granted, posting it as a 'secret' might indicate that they agree that women should be "seen but not heard" and "speak only when spoken to," but it's also possible that they don't.)

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's sort of the impression I got tbh, but I can't tell. IT'd be easier if the fandom were listed so I could look it up for some context.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Gunnerkrigg Court
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-05-22 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Gunnerkrigg Court. Context is she has traditionally been very independent and likes makeup and long hair, but has serious daddy issues with her almost totally absent father who shows up one day, humiliates her in front of everyone, makes her cut her hair and lose the makeup and everything else that defines her look, forces her to retake the school year and separates her from her friends, and she just lets it happen 'cuz daddy issues. He treats her like shit and is so cold he's like a British Gendo Ikari.

I don't know anyone who actually likes her dad.
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[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2015-05-22 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Since she's outright said it twice now I think, I don't think he made her cut her hair, but I do think it is a huge sign of what a huge, negative impact her dad's behavior has had on her. I mean even if neither of them realize it, she is trying to turn herself back into the little girl at the hospital for him.
cloud_riven: Close up of a typical teary-eyed anime face! (I *JUST* want to be *FRIENDS*)

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-05-23 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
British Gendo Ikari

So that's who he was reminding me of!

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ew.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, fair's fair, I guess, don't see any point in shaming you for that. But I don't agree.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-05-22 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm curious. Can someone explain the context here?
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-05-22 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
See my above post.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Gimme a sec and I'll make an effortpost with pics and all

some spoilers for Gunnerkrigg Court (tons of pictures)

[personal profile] manzana 2015-05-22 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's kind of long but here it goes (I'll try to avoid as many spoilers as possible):

Annie (the girl there) grew up in a hospital with her sick mother and her doctor father, who worked tirelessly to save his wife but was always distant to Annie (and to everyone save for one of his childhood friends, presumably):




Annie was very close to her mother, who seems to have been a pretty good parent, but this is the warmest memory she has of her father:




Her mother dies, and two weeks later, her father takes her to a boarding school and doesn't contact her again... nor the school, nor his friends at the school who are Annie's teachers -- he basically goes off the grid and remains unreachable even to the most tech savvy of people there.


(This was near the start of the school year. Note how Annie blames herself for her father abandoning her.)


(And this is after the end of that school year. Note how now she can't make a good excuse for the abandonment so she changes the subject. Also also note the clothes she is wearing. It's the same dress she wears in the comic chapter I link at the end, and it resembles the dress she wore back at the hospital as a younger child. Same-ish clothes, same-ish haircut. It's not a coincidence-- this is a child desperate to have her father back in her life and hoping that maybe if she looks and behaves like she did when her family was complete [but extra obedient this time!], everything will be right again.)

The next time she hears anything about him, is two years later, in the form of a strange phone call, which turns out to be an encrypted request to have someone in the school send him medical supplies.

She pretty much shuts down emotionally:



These supplies were then used to do a weird science (magic?) thing to Annie which puts her in a brief coma. (Other students save her eventually, but no one knows what happened exactly, not the readers, and certainly not Annie.)



Anyway, over the course of the story, Annie gains new responsabilities, friends, self-confidence and seems to be having a good time despite it all, but then, all of a sudden, over three years since she (and anybody else) last saw him:




And the smackdown continues. I very strongly suggest you take a look at the chapter yourself (the pictures have a link to it), it's very short, and the whole sequence doesn't really need you to know about the previous chapters and plotlines to understand the gist of it.

It does have less emotional impact if you're not familiar with the comic, but suffice it to say: Prior to this, Annie has always been a very polite, but very rebellious girl. The transformation she undergoes after her father returns is heartbreaking if you've read the comic from the start, because you can almost see years of emotional growth being shut away in a tiny little box inside her head just so she can keep going and not have her father disappear on her again.

BTW, this is very worth mentioning too:

The teachers I mentioned, who were best friends with Annie's parents, didn't find out about Annie's father returning to the school to be a teacher until after the fact, and they didn't even find out about Annie's mother's death until they saw Annie's paperwork when she was transferred to their school.

That's just how Annie's father rolls, it seems.
Edited 2015-05-23 00:07 (UTC)
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Re: some spoilers for Gunnerkrigg Court (tons of pictures)

[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-05-23 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
This is absolutely fascinating! Thanks so much for taking the time to upload all this with notes and everything. That "warmest memory she has of her father" sequence is heartbreaking :(

(I really love how webcomics drawn by a single person do character growth/arcs so well.)

Re: some spoilers for Gunnerkrigg Court (tons of pictures)

[personal profile] manzana 2015-05-23 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, and you're welcome!

Yeah, this author is great at characterization! Some characters have changed so much, but so organically, that you only notice on second read-throughs. And in the case of Annie's father, a lot of his impact comes from how little he has been characterized. We (the readers) only know of him through second-hand accounts. The "appears at school out of nowhere" chapter is the first time we ever see his current-time face!

Ohhh, and another thing that I forgot to mention: Annie's long hair is symbolic of her magic abilities and in some comic pages it does neat things with the layout, so her chopping it off like that adds more to the feel of isolation and, well, wrongness in that chapter (and why it features so prominently in the "bonus page"). She only ever had short hair in flashbacks.

edit: The white wolf plushie was a gift her mother made for her (a regular toy before PLOT happened), and the makeup Annie wears is identical to the one her mother wore. In a matter of hours, she gave up all her remaining connections to her mother. More sadness yay.
Edited 2015-05-23 01:15 (UTC)
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Re: some spoilers for Gunnerkrigg Court (tons of pictures)

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-05-23 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
just wanted to say this is the best comic summary and interest piquing post ever o7

eta: seriously! you wrote it in a way that while it spoilers, it makes you want to read to see the events for yourself. It has me wanting to reread those chapters
Edited (more flail praise +++) 2015-05-23 01:15 (UTC)

Re: some spoilers for Gunnerkrigg Court (tons of pictures)

[personal profile] manzana 2015-05-23 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Why, thank you!

Re: some spoilers for Gunnerkrigg Court (tons of pictures)

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
The only thing I have to say is this: fuck all the people on the forums who are all like "I support Mr Carver he's not abusive he's a really great guy."

They're terrible.

Re: some spoilers for Gunnerkrigg Court (tons of pictures)

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I would have been happier not knowing that those exist.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
...what comic is this please?

(Anonymous) 2015-05-22 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
woops nvm

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I had to reread this several times because the first time I read it as "appalling" and went "that's not a secret".

As for the "appealing"... it's one thing to fancy girls who are submissive and eager-to-please, but Annie's sudden, dramatic turn for the submissive is, as other commenters have noted, the result of desperation for her father's affection and his abandonment and emotional abuse of her. Long story short, it may be appealing to you, but it sure ain't healthy for her.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-23 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
Fucking weeaboo style.