[ SECRET POST #3062 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3062 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Feminism today is such a joke.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, but if you want me to believe that, you're going to have to show me some evidence, in the form of a Borscht Belt-style flop sweat standup routine

hop to it

make me laugh

[(Anonymous)]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/education/students-asked-to-use-jazz-hands-instead-of-clapping-at-womens-conference-10134926.html

[(Anonymous)]

Touche

[(Anonymous)]

DA.

http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/03/13/is-true-grits-mattie-ross-not-a-feminist-character/

This just in: being brave, aggressive and forthright = unfeminist, because only men can be brave, aggressive, driven and forthright.

[(Anonymous)]

The good news is it becoming increasingly unpopular because of TERFs, radfems, and in group fighting.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure that I can trust you on that, because my sense is that you're ideologically committed to feminism declining, and would say this no matter what in the hopes of causing it to decline

[(Anonymous)]

The TERFs and the Radfems aren't really new. For a long time, and I mean since the 1960s, they formed the backbone of femenism and arguably had to be since it was much harder to be taken seriously as a feminist back then. You really needed, back then, to be bringing something that made a big statement in order to be taken seriously. They just never were as shrill as this because, ironically enough like the MRAs are for men today, they were automatically taken seriously when they spoke and accepted as the baseline.

Now that they are not, the ones still around from the 60s are pretty damn shrill because they feel they are not being given the same level of authority they used to have or same level of respect, and the newer ones (who are just essentially bigots looking for a cause to indulge their assholery in) are angry they missed the boat in being able to get their way. Feminism has evolved, and those that didn't keep up as it gradually became more inclusive and less combative are being left behind and are pretty damn shrill about it all.

[(Anonymous)]

When someone uses the word "shrill" when talking about women's views (as you do twice, I note), I know right then and there how much value to place on that person's statements. A clue - it's a very round number.

[(Anonymous)]

The TERFS and radfems are from the late sixties/early seventies. The in-group fighting is from forever.

[(Anonymous)]

In the entire history of the feminist movement, there have always been people who thought it was a joke for one reason or another. Ditto the civil rights movement. Food for thought, eh?

[(Anonymous)]

You really want to compare the state of feminism today with the Civil Rights Movement?

Seriously?

[(Anonymous)]

Only to the extent that that some people thought the civil rights movement was/is a joke, and some people think the feminist movement was/is a joke. Saying the two movements share some similarities isn't the same thing as equating them you know, so maybe you can take a deep breath and put your "Seriously?"s back on the shelf?

[diet_poison]

...who actually thinks the civil rights movement is a joke? I mean besides some really old bigots and maybe some people raised in crazy fringe groups, but for the most part that's not true at all. MANY people do not take feminism seriously.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm referring more to the historical context, not the civil rights movement as it is viewed today.

[(Anonymous)]

But is there actually much evidence that the civil rights movement was widely viewed as a joke when it was happening? IIRC, its enemies viewed it as a grave threat created by "agitators" from outside the South.

[diet_poison]

Did people used to think it was a joke? A threat, maybe, like anon above me said, but a joke?

I guess it's possible. If so we may never know about it since it was not recorded in the annals of an internet that at the time did not exist.