[ SECRET POST #3062 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3062 ⌋

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Comments

[dreemyweird]

Even assuming the OP is definitely from the US (which may not be the case - "cops aren't popular" is a pretty vague statement that could apply to a lot of countries to different extents), doesn't this vary from state to state?

[(Anonymous)]

It varies department to department, really, which is on the municipal and/or county level. There are also state police, but the police departments under criticism and being exposed as rotten are mostly the city-specific ones, like the Ferguson department.

It's not super clear-cut, since there's shared culture and cross-pollination between departments, but yeah cops are not poured into one big pool. There are plenty of A+ departments, but that's the problem with jobs that are about bringing a net negative up to zero, instead of creating a net positive -- the police doing a brilliant job = "the crime situation here isn't NEARLY as terrible as it would be if we were incompetent!"

[dethtoll]

The police where I live were recently declared a model force, something to be emulated. We already went through our riots 14 years ago, and most importantly learned from them and tried harder to keep good relations between cops and civilians. I don't see that happening with the likes of Ferguson.

[(Anonymous)]

That's great! Is this a big well-known police force or a small one?

I feel like stuff like Ferguson isn't going to change until the march of time filters all the shit out -- and if they're prevented from replenishing their force with shit as well.

[dethtoll]

Cincinnati -- fairly big police force for a fairly big town. It's not without its problems but so far it seems like it's a far sight better than many other forces, and the ratio of white cops:black cops much more closely resembles the ratio of white civilians:black civilians than it once did. (We've also had many black people in positions of authority -- everything from the mayor to the police chief to the coroner.)

I watched the mayor's Undercover Boss.

[(Anonymous)]

He seemed like a pretty on the ball guy. This was a little surprising to me because my image of Cincinnati beforehand came from WKRP in Cincinnati.

Re: I watched the mayor's Undercover Boss.

[(Anonymous)]

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[dreemyweird]

Thank you for answering! That's pretty much what I thought. Of course, the departments that suck are still going to spoil the reputation of the police in general&create problems, but the point is, the OP could choose to work in one of the better teams/their local coppers could be significantly better than people from e.g. Ferguson. So the above anon's cook analogy counterargument doesn't necessarily work even if the OP is American.

[intrigueing]

that's the problem with jobs that are about bringing a net negative up to zero, instead of creating a net positive -- the police doing a brilliant job = "the crime situation here isn't NEARLY as terrible as it would be if we were incompetent!"

LOL truth. The only time a police force really looks good is if they're being compared to a much shittier one like those "doin' it right" and "doin' it wrong" juxtapositions in writing textbooks, or if it just got massive improvements and reforms over a period of time short enough to be noticeable. Otherwise, a super-low crime/police brutality or incompetence/unsolved case rate is the baseline expectation. Which makes sense, like how it should be considered ridiculous to say "omg, this man is so awesome, he didn't rape that girl even though he had a chance to get away with it!" but noticing how to do things right is kind of important for improvements.