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⌈ Secret Post #3062 ⌋

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Comments

[diet_poison]

Why do you hate John Green? *chinhands*

(I don't know much about him, never read his books, I have one quote from him that I really like but that's it. I really just want to hear the dramaz)

[(Anonymous)]

He's a cishet white male who has put his foot in his mouth a few times.

Honestly, of all of tumblr's hateboners, this is the strangest. He's a vlogger who does a lot of social justice work, does extensive work in education and charities and is the first person to say he's a privileged white male and that the world is sexist and the best you can do is fight it. Even most of the stuff on his "your fave is problematic" page is just people lifting things from his books and acting like his characters = him or his beliefs.

He also suffers from anxiety, OCD and depression, so I frown a lot at tumblr going after him. Of all the people to go after, they go after the disabled activist and vlogger who is on their side? Okay.

[diet_poison]

Man, Tumblr is so bad about people who put their foot in it. It's like one fudge-up is total condemnation. *sigh*

Also, is OCD considered a disability?

[(Anonymous)]

Probably depends on the person (idk about legally or anything), but legit OCD and not "lol I'm a neatfreak must by my OCD side!" BS is pretty debilitating.

[diet_poison]

Yeah, fair point. I think a lot of people forget how awful OCD is. It's one of those things that has been way diluted in meaning to most people.

I did a headtilt because I've never heard of anyone saying anxiety or depression is a disability. Mental illness, yes; disability, no. I have depression myself and have never considered it a disability.

[sarillia]

It's one of those things where you really can't define it for everyone because some people will be offended either way. Personally, my anxiety and depression have been disabling at times in my life (though maybe some people who don't consider those disabilities would make an exception in my case because mine has a psychotic component). Although if I'm saying why I consider myself disabled I usually stick to mentioning my degenerative joint disease rather than the mental illnesses because people are pretty dismissive of how difficult they can make life.

Plus there can be a spectrum. There's severe depression that is very much a disability for one person and then there can be mild depression that another person mostly considers a nuisance. Just like you can have total blindness on one end and someone who wears reading glasses on the other. People at various places on the spectrum may consider themselves to have a disability or not.

[diet_poison]

True!

I have never considered my poor vision to be a disability, though I have to wear vision correction to drive.

I think a lot of it depends on how functional you can be with treatment. My depression is highly debilitating if untreated but can be brought completely under control with the right medication. (I am very fortunate in that regard.)

[elialshadowpine]

Late but --

I have GAD. It has been, at points in my life, disabling. Before my awesome psych who put me on appropriate medication (and getting out of the situation with my ex, which was apparently causing a lot of background anxiety I wasn't aware of), I was basically unable to leave my house without extreme anxiety. I couldn't make or take phone calls. I have chronic pain which is its own issue, but even if I hadn't had that, I wouldn't have been able to work. A nasty comment online from a sockpuppet could result in my being non-functional for days. I would get anxiety seizures (which are a thing; I've had it commented by a friend with epilepsy that my anxiety seizures sound a lot like her petite mal seizures, but I honestly haven't had them since I got on proper medication, so I have no idea how they'd even screen for it). It was disabling.

I have no idea where on the spectrum John Green is, but OCD/GAD/depression can most definitely be disabling. Like you said, it depends on how functional, treatment, etc, but I generally tend to assume if someone's bringing it up, it's a big enough deal to at the very least impact their lives. People being shits to someone with mental health issues doesn't surprise me, though; for all that SJWs like to scream about word use (omg, you said crazy, you horrible person), many of them are actually very ableist.

[diet_poison]

Thanks for your perspective.

I have read about and discussed depression in particular several times, not least since it's the one that affects me. Even when I was suffering from it on a regular basis (before meds came into the picture), I would not have thought of it as a disability. I think I just only thought of disabilities as being things that were either purely physical or purely intellectual. I realize now that that's rather narrow.

But yeah, even if it was debilitating for a time, I wouldn't say it's a disability to me now any more than my vision because it's treated.

I'm so glad you got the help you needed, both with meds and giving the ex the boot, and it sounds like you're in a better place now. :)

(Also, I cannot imagine having depression AND anxiety AND OCD all at once, that honestly just sounds really hellish.)