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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-26 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #3065 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3065 ⌋

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[The Witcher 3]


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[Shakin Stevens]


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[The Godfather II]


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[A Redtail's Dream]


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[David Lynch & David Cronenberg]


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[Laurell K. Hamilton]


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[Big Bang Theory]


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(Richard Dawkins)


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(Anonymous) 2015-05-27 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
This is absolutely how most hard agnostics arrive at their stance. I don't actually know any hard agnostics who DIDN'T come to their convictions by some variation of the theme of "I thought about/watched the practices that conclude from gnostic
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This is absolutely how most hard agnostics arrive at their stance. I don't actually know any hard agnostics who DIDN'T come to their convictions by some variation of the theme of "I thought about/watched the practices that conclude from gnostic <atheistic/theistic> stances, and am no longer convinced of their value / rationality".

I don't believe a higher power exists, or that their existence can be proven or is worth proving.
I don't believe a higher power doesn't exist, or that its non-existence can be proven or is worth proving.

But somehow, it's never theistic people arguing with me that I'm secretly religious, it's always atheists telling me I'm totes secretly atheistic and just can't/won't admit it.

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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-05-27 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to tell you you're "totes secretly atheistic." But you know why atheists are confused by your stance? Because it doesn't fucking make sense.

You're literally telling me that you're an agnostic because some atheists are jerks and... that somehow invalidates a lack of belief in deities? Think about this. Really think about the logic here. This is like some gradeschool stuff: "well some people like it but i don't like them so i don't like it!" The value or lack thereof of a lack of belief in deities should not be dependent on the actions of those who lack belief.

So, hey, great, you're an agnostic, congratulations, I used to be in that club too -- but come by that position honestly, come by it because you feel it to be true, don't sit there and tell me it's because you decided to treat atheism like a form of theism so you can lump the jerky behaviors of individual atheists under some form of imaginary codified "practices" that you can condemn. Most atheists aren't going to put up with that kind of insult. It only works for theists because a bunch of them believe atheism is a religion anyway (so they can condemn it as heresy.)