[ SECRET POST #3065 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3065 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Witcher 3]


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03.
[Shakin Stevens]


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[The Godfather II]


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[A Redtail's Dream]


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[David Lynch & David Cronenberg]


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[Laurell K. Hamilton]


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[Big Bang Theory]


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(Richard Dawkins)


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Comments

[caerbannog]

I took it more that they're loud because they're surrounded by religion and advertisements that are just "atheists exist" get vandalised and general frustration. Sure a lot of the loud ones are dicks (it sounds like? Idk anything about new atheists t movement) and I'm sure there's some agnostics in there but it just sounds like frustrated people to me

To go with your analogy, sure they're announcing the sun will rise every now and then, but only because everyone around them is insisting it won't and never will and it's actually Pluto rising not the sun.

[sabotabby]

I'd feel way more sympathetic if/when they get frustrated because they're in places where religion affects them. But it seems to be people who haven't grown up with religion oppressing them in any tangible way but just want to shout very loudly about a thing.

[caerbannog]

I wouldn't say atheists are oppressed (in America) but I'd argue there's passive discrimination ranging to active discrimination depending on their location (from what I've heard/read. Never been to America myself, doubt as a tourist I'd have much time to pay attention).

Which can get frustrating the more you notice. Then add in groups of ?support or feedback? And you end up with communities like the child free ones - loud and aggressive.

[sabotabby]

Oh, I get it. I've even experienced it personally and still experience it pretty regularly in a developed, supposedly secular country. It's just not, say, equivalent to being racialized, or female, or trans, or really any oppressed group, and there's a strong correlation between the loudest atheists and the most otherwise privileged people.

As a lady atheist, I very much feel marginalized within any sort of atheist movement, and in terms of my own personal safety—given that I can't even critique Richard Dawkins in a fannish forum without a stranger resorting to rape threats against me—would never feel safe walking into any organized atheist space. (Unless, of course, atheism was not the primary axis of identity; a gathering of communists or anarchists can be pretty much assumed to be atheists, but that is very much secondary and they would likely also have a race/class/gender/sexuality critique that much more resembles my own.)