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fandomsecrets2008-01-20 06:04 pm
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[ SECRET POST #380 ]
⌈ Secret Post #380 ⌋
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Re: 23
And for reference, Rinoa is the "Even though I can't really fight, and have no special powers that I'm aware of, I'll just go and defeat the all-powerful sorceress all by my self! I'm sure there won't be any problems!" type of character that drives me mad.
I mean, when male characters go to face a big evil, it's usually to overcome it, or to have a big, important realisation about themselves/the plot/the world/whatever. When a female character does it, it's generally to move male characters' personality/storyline forward.
Really, it's why I still stand by the statement that there are almost no female charcters that are as good as the males, even now. They might not all be submissive and nurturing/caring anymore, but they're usually just as flat and uninteresting, completely static, and with no character development.
Re: 23
I think my entire point for why females are so hated was missed. Because a lot of the "flat" personalities that are dissed aren't that flat at all. And it sounds like both of you are holding the male characters on a higher platform than female characters.
Or maybe it's reversed, and that's why no one likes the female characters.
And, as far as I know, in the Gravitation fandom, Shuichi is loved. :/
Re: 23
Anyway, my main point was that female characters get very little development, and that's why they're less interesting. Yeah, male characters can start out just as flat, but they generally grow throughout the series.
I think I had an example, yes? The difference in how similar situations are handled for male and female characters annoys me like nothing else.
I mean, there are lots of female characters that I love; pretty much everybody in Utena,Princess Tutu, Slayers, xxxHolic, Tsubasa, and FMA for example. It's a lot harder to find good ones in shonen manga and video games, where they tend to be reduced to plot robots (though I thought the female characters in FFXII where really good).
Re: 23
And if Shuichi has some big evil to fight, I'm sure he'd do that too.I do think it's getting better, slowly but surely, especially if you know which animes to look for. But yeah, it is hard to find females that live up to the males, which is just SAD. Where are the female role models? Even when you have females people LIKE a lot of times they're not given the screen time they deserve, or they're liked AFTER the male character. How many people have a female listed as their top top favorite? I know I adore tons of females in Naruto, but only ones even in my top 5.
Oy, I'm sounding very feminist, but yeah.
Re: 23
I loved Utena for precisely that reason: heroic storyline (well... among other things XD), but female protagonist. And she was given the same amount of development and growth as a male character would have!