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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-05-28 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3067 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3067 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-05-28 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't like when people say that because it's intrinsically insulting to real women to dress or act that way. "That's different because real women choose to do it themselves" is a weak excuse after you've already said they shouldn't exist in fiction when written by men. If you really thought there was nothing wrong with doing it in real life, you wouldn't be against it happening in fiction.
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[personal profile] logicbutton 2015-05-28 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not about ascribing morality to clothes, it's about ascertaining the motives of the person who made the choice to put someone in them. Generally, the choices people make for others (including fictional others) should be subject to more scrutiny than the choices people make for themselves.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Real life doesn't have slow panning up shots of a woman in a short dress, the only equivalent would be someone looking up a woman up and down, which would make many women uncomfortable.

The truth is there are choices made by male writers that don't have much to do with making a completely realistic woman and have everything to do with making a character a sex object. When we're dealing with real women who make choices, you don't have to worry about them being realistic because they ARE real.

There is a difference.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
The secret doesn't say anything about panning up or camera angles. If it had and that's what more people talked about, I wouldn't object to the criticism.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2015-05-29 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah sure, some real women do dress that way, at bars or clubs or when they're having fun. It in no way "intrinsically insults" these women to say that this is unrealistic or pandering when the women in question are doing something where women IRL wear more practical clothing, like doing what female characters are doing 99% of the time like working or fighting.

(Anonymous) 2015-05-29 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry that things like context exist to confuse your tiny brain