[ SECRET POST #381 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #381 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 200 secrets from Secret Submission Post #055.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 2 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] too big, [ 1 ] personal attack.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008.
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Comments

Re: 12, 14, 28, 34

[sincere]

I have no problem with that -- it's entirely possible that she does only know WoW players who are addicts, and while I still find the logic she uses to accuse them circular, it's pretty much a fact that WoW has been a significant factor in a lot of people's lives going downhill. I'm not going to argue against that.

Although for the record, I think saying "This game ruins lives" is a little dramatic if you're claiming that actually, this person had some willpower problems to begin with, but whatever THIS GAME RUINS LIVES. The game didn't force anyone to beat their wife or neglect their jobs until they got fired; heck, Blizzard gets the same fee whether you play five hours a week or forty-five. All WoW is is a timesink, something that does go on interminably and never runs out of replay value, and if someone don't have the willpower to say, "Okay, I'm done with this now, there are responsible things I have to do," then that person is going to be in trouble.

Re: 12, 14, 28, 34

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I actually see no logical flaw, and I think what it is is that we're getting different readings out of that last remark. You're seeing, "I know these people are WoW addicts because whenever I accuse them of being addicts they lash out at me, ergo they are addicts." I, on the other hand, am seeing, "I know these people are addicts because I have seen them ruin their lives (going into debt, losing jobs, turning into irredeemable assholes, etc.) but I'm afraid of calling them out on it because reactions of addicts are scary." Neither is necessarily truer than the other; that's just my view because my personal experience seems to support it.

WoW -- and any agent in an addiction -- cannot be blamed for everything, but I do think that the nature of the game contributes largely to the problem. There are many other games of its type, but WoW is the chief offender - why? Because it's the time investment needed in order to get any sense of satisfaction is excessive? Because it has no end? Because it saddles people with a sense of responsibility toward irrelevant things (becoming leader or whatever)? Any of those factor, if mitigated, might greatly reduce the detrimental effect, who knows. It's true, lack of self-control and addictive tendencies are people's downfall, but people are also more likely become addicted to highly addictive things, and that's an argument you can make for many different types of addiction, at varying degrees.

In the end, it comes down to how you view the situation. I do think the OP is exaggerating and slightly overemotional, but if you've been personally affected by the life-ruining power of WoW (weak-willed friends and all), it's not supernatural to want to yell, "I wish this fucking game never existed."