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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-02 06:49 pm

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nightscale: Starbolt (Disney: SUPERSTITCH)

Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-06-03 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I've never seen complaints about the Little Mermaid, what to they tend to focus on or tear apart in it?

(I don't hang out in predominately Disney spaces so the only Disney complaints I've seen are about Frozen).
dani_phantasma: (dolphin)

Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2015-06-03 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
There's a lot of "omg she traded her voice for a man she hardly knew". By people who apparently missed all of the part of the movie BEFORE she meets Eric, including a whole song number about how she loves the surface world.

And with her father's explosive temper to me the movie seemed more like a movie about a young women seeking independence from her father and her father learning to come to accept that then a movie about a woman giving up everything for a guy. Like their were so many signs that the movie was really more about Triton and Ariel than Ariel and Eric.
nightscale: Starbolt (Disney: SUPERSTITCH)

Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-06-03 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah it is very much focused on the father/daughter relationship than the one with Eric, and while I do think she perhaps latches onto Eric a bit fast it's very clear in the movie that she's wanted to be on the surface for a long time, Eric was just kind of the catalyst for it.

Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2015-06-03 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

Realizing the whole father daughter theme of the movie really makes it resonate with me lately as a young adult wanting to be independent myself.

Also TBH Eric always bored me a bit. He was a Prince Charming and "nice guy" but....that's about it. There wasn't really much else to him at all.
nightscale: Starbolt (Disney: SUPERSTITCH)

Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-06-03 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah he seems nice enough but doesn't have much of a character beyond that, he's just kind of 'generically handsome nice guy', which isn't awful but I don't love, love him or anything.
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Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] sarillia 2015-06-03 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
The most baffling one I've come across is that it's perpetuating the idea that women should be quiet and not speak their minds. Which makes no sense to me because the loss of her voice was the plan of the villain. Generally the villain's plan is not supposed to represent an ideal that the audience is supposed to agree with.

The most common one is the argument that she gave up everything for a man. Again, I disagree because she was clearly obsessed with human stuff in general. Personally I think there was an element of Eric being exotic to her in her crush on him where it was an extension of her obsession for all things human. It kind of bothers me that people take a girl who is full of intellectual curiosity and continues trying to learn everything she can even after she's staying with Eric and ostensibly has what the people who say she just wanted a man claim she wanted, and they reduce her to nothing more than a foolish girl with a crush. But those who disagree with me could say I'm going too far in the other direction defending her, and that's probably fair.

I must sound like such an obnoxious Disney stan. :D
nightscale: Starbolt (Disney: SUPERSTITCH)

Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-06-03 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
See I agree with the notion that Ariel doesn't really know Eric to know if she's in love with him but at the same time she clearly wants out of where she lives and I think Eric is the way out that she latches onto(not to say that she doesn't genuinely have feelings for him, but like with all Disney movies they are very quick to occur, and that's not a Little Mermaid Specific thing, I mean in Sleeping Beauty they meet for 5 mins and it's true love. It's only recently that Disney have started poking fun at that).

I'd be somewhere in the middle I think overall, because I can certainly see arguments from both sides.
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Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] sarillia 2015-06-03 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I definitely agree with that. What is it, three days that she has to make him fall in love with her? Hah. I've been with my girlfriend two years and it feels like no time at all.
nightscale: Starbolt (Disney: SUPERSTITCH)

Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-06-03 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah 3 days, which is nothing out of the ordinary for Disney. :P

It's funny 'cause as a kid falling in love after 3 days never seemed ludicrous because 3 days was such a long time to me back then, but now I'm waaaay more skeptical lol. But I also get that it's supposed to be cute more than true to life so the romances don't really bother me, at most I'm just like 'eh'.
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Re: most "problematic" thing you like?

[personal profile] leisuretime 2015-06-03 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
I can't believe no one's mentioned "Triton destroyed Ariel's secret cave with his big phallic triton! That's a metaphor for sexual abuse! Bad daddy, bad!"