[ SECRET POST #3084 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3084 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Sense8]


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03.
[Lawrence of Arabia]


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04.
[Mos Def (Ford Prefect in the Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy movie), and Peter Capaldi (the Twelfth Doctor)]


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05.
[Orphan Black]


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06.
[DC Comics]


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07.
[Super Sonico]


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08.
[Shuriken Sentai Ninninger]


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09.
[Alesha Dixon (Britain's Got Talent) and Van Ness Wu (Asia's Got Talent)]


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10.
[Valiant Hearts]


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11.
[The Lorax (book)]


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12.
[Outerlander vs. Twilight]


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13.
[Wrestling]


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14.
[Life Is Strange, RWBY, Regular Show, New Girl]











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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I hate dystopia/apocalyptic stuff so IA with you by default.

[(Anonymous)]

why do you hate the genre?

[ketita]

I'm not that anon, but I'm not a huge fan of dystopias either. I like some of the more classic ones well enough, but I think that nowadays a lot of them are more edgy for the sake of edginess and angst rather than really taking an interesting look at society or issuing a meaningful warning.
Or maybe it's just that I feel like all the dystopian societies have already been done, and none of them manage to surprise me or make me think. They're just nasty for the sake of being nasty.

"look people are shitty!"
Goodness me, I would never have thought.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, actually, as a fan of dystopian sci-fi. I think some of the more classic ones were new and interesting and thought-provoking when they were first written (Brave New World, We, 1984 I guess piggybacking off of We...) Some of them were blunt hammers, but they were blunt hammers that people NEEDED. Also a lot of film dystopias I'm rather fond of. Bladerunner is very dystopian.

But, yes, where they fail is that they're either trying to be edgy for the sake of it... or they're trying to make a statement, and failing badly. A lot of them feel like they're complaining about teachers (every child must take The Test at thirteen!) Whereas We was written by a guy who actually experienced living in a world like that. Brave New World was written in a similar time of social upheaval.

They're also often not very convincing. They're not subtle; they're too loud and didactic. Take Bladerunner, for instance. I like that movie and I would classify it as a dystopian film, and it's certainly trying to make statements and say stuff.

But the world it's created feels believable; there's attention to detail. It feels lived-in. It's not entirely made up of statements. It's not 100% concept, if that makes sense.

Like... there's so much material for dystopian writing in the world we already live in, and some things people aren't even addressing!

I also don't always like the cynicism of dystopian literature (1984 is especially bad for this, ugh, Orwell). Like the whole 'apathetic citizens' thing. It's not 100% realistic if everyone in the society just goes along with shit (except the hero OFC) because 'that's how humanity really is!'

If you contrast darkness with a bit of light, it makes it that much more powerful.

/rant

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for this, you put what I dislike about some contemporary dystopian fiction clearly into words.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really think of Blade Runner as a dystopian, at all. It's a neo-Noir. Everything about that film is noir, not dystopian.

Now, Brazil is dystopian.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Apocalyptic stuff I'm usually fine with, but dystopias often come off as very heavy-handed and preachy to me, plus there's a certain kind of dystopia that's just very conservative and backwards looking, like "Kids these days are so terrible. I feel sad for the world. *shakes head disapprovingly*" I mean, obviously not all are like that, but I think I must have gotten burned by a couple of bad ones.

I also think I don't like them for the same reason that I don't like sci-fi -- while it purports to be about the future, the future they conceive is so obviously shaped/limited by the author's present that it always falls a hair short of being believable.

[(Anonymous)]

IA, I just wrote a whole thesis on this above, haha.

Also - +1 about the sci-fi thing.

Like, man, I love sci-fi, but so much of it is so obviously framed in a particular worldview about what The Future will look like.

Sometimes it's kind of unintentionally creepy when there's like one black dude in the future. (Especially in something that's not dystopian.) Like... what happened to all the other people...?

For example - there's a current optimistic futurist movement known as transhumanism, and the whole thing creeps me the fuck out because it's such a limited vision of the future but they're not even aware of the blinkers they're wearing (and also kind of cult-like but that's a story for another day.)