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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-16 05:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #3086 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3086 ⌋

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philstar22: (Default)

Re: Power Metal

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-06-17 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the recs. This is awesome. Lots of stuff to try.
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: Power Metal

[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-06-17 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I used to listen to a bunch of stuff back in the day. :)

Now I barely listen to it at all. I think the only "traditional" metal bands I ever took with me when I gave up on the genre entirely have been Darkthrone, Bolt Thrower, and Ulver.

The best thing to happen to metal was post rock's growing influence and the proof is in how much metal fans try to ignore it.
philstar22: (Default)

Re: Power Metal

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-06-17 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe I'll get sick of it after a while. I just like the combination of metal and orchestral. I've always liked the more well known stuff like Nightwish and Epica, but I've never really tried any of the other stuff until now.

Re: Power Metal

(Anonymous) 2015-06-17 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
I am interested in your thoughts on metal and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Why did you give up on the metal genre?
How has the influence of post-rock become apparent? (I love that genre, btw, would be interesting to see how it's affected metal.)
Why do you think metal fans hate the influence of post-rock?

(+1 for Ulver!)
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: Power Metal

[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-06-17 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, questions!

I gave up on metal because I realized how there was so much of it, yet it had all started to sound the same. I was also getting really sick of the scene -- antagonistic, elitist, obsessed with staying "tr00" (read: not becoming financially successful or experimenting with one's sound) and a seriously lacking and outdated fashion sense. (There's other colors than black, guys, and you can lose the wallet chain nobody's gonna steal your bus pass.) When Opeth's Watershed came out it really, really pissed me off, because by that point I was entirely sick of the scene's obsession with slick but utterly soulless (and worst of all boring) prog metal like Pain of Salvation and Porcupine Tree and Watershed sounded exactly like that nonsense. I was so annoyed with one of my favorite bands going down what in retrospect was the logical conclusion of the career path they were taking that at the time I was exploring other forms of music and kind of ejected myself from traditional metal entirely for a couple years. By the time I came back I was like "is this crap really this samey and boring across the board or have I just been gone too long?"

Post-rock's influence is apparent in bands like Isis, Pelican, Cult of Luna, Rosetta, Jesu, Neurosis and even Tool. It's the best thing to happen to metal, because it's finally some fucking new blood. It's finally some new fucking sound and not just the same low-E chuggery over and over. It's not as outright ridiculous and juvenile as a lot of metal, and isn't afraid to play with conventions of both post-rock and metal. You could argue that it suffers from the sameyness that plagues traditional metal, but that's true of any genre and post-metal's scene is far more varied and accepting of different sounds, whereas you could play me 100 death metal albums and I'd be able to tell maybe 5 of them apart (and they'd all be by Chuck Schuldiner!) because that's what the fans apparently want.

Unfortunately fans of more traditional metal -- everything from Iron Maiden to, I dunno, Dimmu Borgir -- simply prefer to pretend these bands don't exist, or if they do acknowledge them and their fans they deride it as pretentious wankery while simultaneously worshipping Mike Portnoy and jerking themselves into a stomachache over Dream Theater. I've never seen a modern music scene more stagnant and opposed to change since classical and punk.