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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-18 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3088 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're mistaking a vocal minority for the entire population of college kids, with a little bit of imaginary SJW boogeyman thrown in for good measure.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
But some of those were actually banned (Taco bars, Chik-Fil-A, using the phrase 'America...") or someone got in actual trouble because they were being "offensive". If something is banned, there is a problem.

Some colleges are so neutered these days and terrified of getting hit with a lawsuit that they break their backs trying to be as offensive as possible. Actual professors have come out and said they are terrified of saying something that might be construed as offensive. And not just "old, white guys", these are professors of all gender/races/ages.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I think there are actual problems here but you are talking about them in the most generalized, uninformed, fear-baiting way possible, with a total lack of nuance, and with all reference to actual facts and incidents replaced by a sort of free-floating generalized moral panic. It's not very helpful to anything.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Remember that news story about the old lady who got burned by hot McDonald's coffee? Was it indicative of a dangerous trend in killer fast food coffee or was it a fairly isolated incident blown out of proportion because some people like doing that?

I doubt don't that what you mentioned has happened before. I just think it's a mistake to see it as a general consensus of how all or even the majority of college age people think. You know the banned book list? Yeah, the books on it still exist, they're still being read, and most of them are in no danger of falling into obscurity even though some people think they're "a problem".

(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Since you mention it, it's always worth pointing out that the woman in question was pretty justified in her suit.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. That's why I used it, it's an isolated example that very few people know much about and what they've heard is misleadingly alarmist.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The coffee thing was the former, and McD's own lawyers had been warning them they were cruising for a lawsuit if they didn't make changes.. TL;DR they didn't and when someone got third degree burns because of the problems they they had to pay out. Do the fucking reading, man.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think you should probably read a little more closely yourself. I'm not arguing that scalding hot coffee isn't dangerous, I'm pointing out that dangerous incidents =/= a scary nationwide fear epidemic that should have everyone trembling in their boots.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
except the only context in which the hot coffee incident is ever mentioned as an example of how ~crazy litigious~ everyone is nowadays in our ~PC~ society

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
nyart

That or an example of ~typical wacky suing~!

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because most people are ignorant about what happened doesn't mean everyone is.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-18 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem kinda panicked about this, so I'm going to give you a little perspective here. You know all those hippies who were smoking pot and advocating free love, no war, civil rights, etc.? They come from the same generation who voted for Bush twice, supported "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", came out on the conservative side for issues like abortion and the environment and were pretty damn hawkish when it came to war.

Now if you look back at footage from that era, you see mostly long haired hippies. It's easy to get the impression that the 90s would've been a new revolution of pot legalization and staying out of the Middle East. But it wasn't. Why? Because those hippies were a minority. A highly visible minority to be sure, but a minority nonetheless, and most of them had dramatic changes in attitude as well as politics once they left college. For all their yaaaaay counter culture! ways, they ended up middle aged with kids and mortgages and grumbling about those damn kids today, just like every generation does. Then they go embarrass the shit out of their kids by posting racist crap on Facebook about Obama.

This current college generation will be no different, I promise you. We are no more in danger of being PC-ed out of existence than we were in danger of being taken over by hordes of unwashed hippies wearing love beads and listening to Jefferson Airplane. Hope that makes you feel better.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Well I'd like to buy you a drink!

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I don't drink, but I appreciate the sentiment. Thank you!

(Anonymous) 2015-06-19 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, this. My dad was a hippie, but you'd never believed that if you met him today... or anytime during the previous 45-ish years.