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*Checks anon status*

*Checks IP logging is not on*

I am a nurse and I have started actively discourage men from getting their prostate checked.

What the fuck? Why?

What the fuck.

What.

I don't even have words for this.

Yes, you are an asshole. I hope you never have to suffer through cancer. My father got testicular cancer. He was one of those older "never go to the doctor unless your foot is missing types". It was too far along when it was discovered. He died from it.

My grandmother also died from breast cancer. That was a long battle for her. She couldn't talk or move by the time it was over. At she was able to die at home instead of a hospital.

But hey, if you want to be a disgusting cunt, go ahead. :)

I hope you are found out and you lose your license. That's absolutely abhorrent.

To defend OP a bit here:

I'm a cancer researcher and one of the things we learn about prostate cancer is that although it's quite common, unlike breast cancer, it's often not a cancer you die FROM. It's one you die WITH.

Unless you have an aggressive form, a lot of times, people would be better off not getting it treated because it progresses so slowly that you'll die of something else before it becomes an issue.

But if you tell someone that they have cancer, they'll always freak out (understandably) and want it gone even if they should probably just leave it alone.

I don't know if that's OP's motive. But if it is, I do think his/her behavior is less cold-hearted than it seems.

Prostate cancer isn't like pancreatic or lung cancer, which are uniformly terrible. It CAN be super-aggressive and bad, make no mistake, but there is overtreatment of it too.

No, I'm sorry. That's not AYRT's call to make, at all, and it's at best deeply unethical and morally wrong for them to do what they claim to be doing.

I'm not saying it's his/her call to make. But what I'm saying is that it's not necessarily as cold-hearted as it seems to be.

Chemo is no joke and getting it unnecessarily can fuck you up, health wise.

Not to mention the financial burden.

You're 100% right that it's not the OP's call to make, but I guess I'm saying that, until OP clarifies, I don't think it's necessarily fair to assume that they're acting out of cruelty. They just might want to protect people from freaking out over something they'd be better off leaving alone.

So...protecting people from themselves? From information they deserve to have? Grown men aren't infants for fuck's sake.

People deserve to have information. What they do with it is another story.

I think AYRT's point is that anon might be doing something which is morally wrong out of an excess of compassion, rather than out of spite.

Which is probably true, as far as it goes, if unlikely.

Compassionate or no, the attitude that people should be protected from themselves is one that REALLY pisses me off.

So either way I vehemently disagree with OP's motives.

But you just admitted yourself that prostate cancer can be incredibly aggressive and lethal.

Which isn't something that can be determined without testing.

Which requires it be discovered.

Which requires a prostate exam.

Which OP is actively discouraging people from getting.

Either they're being cruel, or they're being a willful idiot. Discouraging a patient from seeking dangerous treatment for something unlikely to kill them is one thing - discouraging them from being tested for something that, if present, may be, on the scale of horrible diseases, relatively harmless, or may be incredibly lethal is something very, very different.

Um. The only way they would be able to make an informed decision was if the cancer was found in the first place.

I seriously hope you are trolling, because actively encouraging your patient to skip recommended exams could actually contribute to someone's death.

Fuck you.

1. Why?

2. Fuck you and I hope you get canned, if this is true.

An arsehole is a bus driver who wont stop for you. You are a criminal.

There's actually studies that show that one of the most common tests for prostate cancer isn't very effective, and prostate cancer doesn't usually kill people so... this isn't as terrible as it could be.

It's not as harmful as it could be.

It's still just as terrible, IMO.

The outcome may not be terrible; however, that doesn't mean that OP is not terrible.

Why??

lol this thread

lol @ anyone falling for this

But there's nothing even particularly outre about it, on either side. One person said something evil, in a very succinct and matter of fact way, and everyone else rightly pointed out that it was evil. I mean, shit, whether or not the person was being sincere, all of the reactions are still pretty much correct.

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