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⌈ Secret Post #386 ⌋

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I think you're a little fast to pull out the "It's because she's a girl!" reasoning.

I don't think she has much of a personality. For that matter, neither does Mai, Ty Lee, or Haru. This isn't to say that they have bad personalities but rather, they have not had enough development by themselves for me to appraise them. HOWEVER, the moment they enter some sort of ship, I get twitchy. They are, in many ways, blank slates. How the hell do you ship someone with a blank slate?

But yeah. At least for me, it's not her lack of penis but her lack of development with respect to everyone else that makes me think that she has very little personality.

When I see people complaining that male characters who've only been in a few episodes have no personality, then I'll rethink it. But--not just in this case but in others--I see people much quicker to slap "stereotype!" on female characters than male ones.

I think in the case of you and me, we simply have different standards for what classes a character as having "personality." I think that Mai, Ty Lee, and Suki all have plenty of personality (and in Suki's case I listed off traits in my original comment). They just haven't been explored in the same depth as the main characters. Depth =/= personality. I also don't think characters need to be explored in depth to serve as romantic interests in a series whose main focus is not romance. That's personal preference, though.

I see where you're coming from. However, I think that you cheapen the romantic interests when you involve shallow characters. And I guess in that way, I dislike these characters for weakening what might otherwise be a strong plot device. And these weaker relationships, I feel, dilute the story and drag it down a little bit. As you said, though, this is personal preference in storytelling.

But I guess my point is that while there may be people out there who shit on characters because they're female, there are also those of us out there who may not like them so much for other reasons (i.e. definitional differences in what constitutes "personality"). I feel that these reasons are fairly legitimate and stem from a variety of personal preferences, as you said. So, please don't lump all of us with the idiots that you called out. =D

You know I would maybe agree to this, but I don't see Zuko's or Sokka's romantic plotlines to be all that vital to the story so I don't feel that they need to have to be paired with just as prominent characters as themselves, so I don't think Zuko's relationship with Mai or Sokka's with Suki weakened the plotline if any thing their interactions have just further enlightened on the character they may not have been the most plotty but they did have a specific purpose in the story and still seem to.

Now if Aang were to be paired with a character on that level, I would agree it wouldn't weaken it, but Aang has Katara and she is a member of the main cast.

The thing about female characters is that there tends to be trend. It isn't just one person, but it tends to be the case throughout commentary of the issue, so it isn't something that can be seen through just one persons experience, so you don't think of it in that way. That's great, but it doesn't mean that the trend of holding female characters to a different standard doesn't exist and that is what I think

annwyd is getting at.

And I think Sokka's relationship with Suki was a huge development for Sokka. And that hardly weakens the plotline or means Suki's just a big nothing.

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