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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-06-30 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #3100 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3100 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Dishonored 2]


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[Gaia Online]


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[Brendon Urie, Panic! at the Disco (+P!nk, Teresa Marie)]


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[Winona Ryder in Heathers]


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[Orphan Black]


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[Miraculous Ladybug]


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[The Mentalist]


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[Legend]


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[Spy (2015)]


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[Bridget Marquardt, Girls Next Door]









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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Hugo Awards

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
There was a schism right at the start of this, this year. I'm sure that your side hates to acknowledge that, because then you'd have to actually think about the issue instead of having a knee-jerk reaction to it, but neither Brad nor Larry is racist, sexist, or homophobic, and the Sad Puppy reins are being taken over by a woman next year. I know it comes as a shock, but not everyone who wears a Conservative Hat actually fits the narrow perception. Shocking.

In fact, by social theory arguments, it is actually impossible for Larry Correia to be racist, because he is Latino and you can only be racist if you're white.

Re: Hugo Awards

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
The poisoned apple hasn't fallen far from the poison tree, and if they use similar tactics and only give a nudge and a wink toward distancing themselves from Vox Day, then I'd say that wasn't much of a schism as it was a PR move. A smart one, since it allows them a small measure of plausible deniability to the uninformed, but obviously it won't fool everyone.


"In fact, by social theory arguments, it is actually impossible for Larry Correia to be racist, because he is Latino and you can only be racist if you're white."

I imagine you think this is quite the fatal parting shot, because of course anyone who doesn't follow the Puppy line is a SJW who thinks racism is something only white people do. That says far more about the legitimacy of your arguments than it does about your incredibly flimsy strawmen.

Re: Hugo Awards

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, "POC can't be racist" is not my argument. But go ahead. Call an African American liberal a racist. I'll be more than happy to watch you get dogpiled.

You and I both know that there is nothing the SPs could have done that would have "distanced themselves" far enough from Vox. And even if they'd said YES BURN THE WITCH, it's not like they still wouldn't be called every name in the book.

Because that already happened long before they were associated with him.

Re: Hugo Awards

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, "POC can't be racist" is not my argument. But go ahead. Call an African American liberal a racist. I'll be more than happy to watch you get dogpiled.

Nobody in this thread has argued that POCs can't be racist. I certainly haven't. So who are you attempting to counter here? Oh, that's right: imaginary opponents you set up with flimsy arguments specifically so you could defeat them. That's kind of odd.

You and I both know that there is nothing the SPs could have done that would have "distanced themselves" far enough from Vox.

Well, I know that defending Vox and then trying to backpedal and delete all the evidence wasn't a good way to distance themselves from Vox. But I imagine the whole "but there was nothing we could doooooooo" wail sounds much more harmonius in their ears even though it's not very convincing to a lot of people.

Re: Hugo Awards

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Your mistake is in thinking I'm trying to "defeat" anyone. I am saying that Brad and Larry have been called horrible names--and if you haven't seen that, then you've been living under a rock--and pointing out that by the very social theory propounded by people doing the name-calling, it is impossible for Larry to be racist. I'm talking about the larger issue, not just "this thread."

If you're not doing the name-calling, or if you don't think that "racism" is based on "prejudice + power," I'm not talking about you.

But it bemuses me that a Portuguese guy who has taught women self-defense, and another guy who's been married to a politically liberal African-American woman for something like twenty years, both of whom support marriage equality, can be painted as racist sexist homophobes.