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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-01 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3101 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3101 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't think she's sexual at all though? More enigmatic space rock alien.

Although Greg and Pearl are totally into her, the episode's main focus was that Rose Quartz saw Greg as merely an entertaining earth creature, and Greg was struggling that the object of his love wasn't taking their relationship seriously.

And Pearl's romantic feelings towards her are hella one-sided. Rose only loves Pearl as family, not as a lover.

Unless, you're really talking about how it bothers you that the characters are acting sexually towards Rose Quartz, and I totally misinterpreted this secret. :p

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
And Pearl's romantic feelings towards her are hella one-sided. Rose only loves Pearl as family, not as a lover.

As someone who's not in this fandom, but has seen the fusion gif'd all over her dash, can you explain to me that if Rose feels this way for Pearl, why they were implied to have a mouth-to-mouth kiss during their dance?

I get this implication because there was a strategic curl of Rose's hair covering their faces and Greg did his best to mirror the dance, which also included a kiss from him, which surprised Rose because she had never been kissed by something (a human) she was so fascinated with?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I was always under the impression that Rose and Pearl had a kinda friends with benefits kinda thing going on or something. That, or Rose doesn't see kissing as inherently romantic as humans do and is oblivious to Pearl's giant gay crush. .

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Yeah, same. I took it as Rose not having the same attachment to the relationship as Pearl did.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a good point. I saw the implied kiss and automatically assumed, based on how I feel on the subject, it as implied/expressed intimacy. But maybe Rose just doesn't see it that way?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-01 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Rose is an alien space rock who is shown to find humans and their customs/ways to entertaining rather something she truly understands and respects. Though she obviously grows beyond that later, I would think it's likely that she simply doesn't understand the implications that kissing has to humans and just thought it was fun or cute.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-07-01 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Twitter and tumblr got lit up with asks. One of the writers (not Rebecca, Ian I think?) said explicitly that yeah, it's not just entirely one sided but is more complicated then that.

Like Anon said above, I think Pearl definitely had some reciprocation from Rose, but how deep a relationship it was differed a lot from how deep she wanted it to be. Rose likely didn't realize that, since she does seem to be a bit of the fun having manic pixie dream girl and that was specifically what she was trying to be until Greg shocked her out of it by making so clear he wanted more.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-07-02 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I think a majority of conflicts of the show work from the premise that in spite of being effectively immortal, gems don't have a great deal of emotional or social intelligence.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-03 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Are we sure it isn't culture shock?
I mean, all these gender less Gem Homeworld people who meet all of us gendered Earthlings are going to be thrown a few curve balls at first, right?
So, it isn't about lack of intelligence, but lack of COMMON INTELLECTUAL GROUND.
Right?
Discuss, please.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-02 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect something like. Pearl has this really low image of her own self-worth, and she saw Rose as practically her whole world ("Everything I ever did, I did for her" etc...). Whereas Rose did care deeply about Pearl, but she also cares about a heck ton of other stuff too. And she was the leader of the rebellion, and it's implied she was some kind of a powerful authority figure even before that.

And this sorta caused a huge imbalance where Pearl puts Rose on a pedestal and is completely devoted and dedicated to her. Pearl makes her important life-decisions based on Rose, instead of thinking for herself and having a life outside of that ("why would I never want to go home, when you're right here?"). For example, it's pretty clear that from a purely personal-preference point of view, Pearl did not want to stay on Earth, but she did, because of Rose. And she had this deeply self-sacrificial mindset about Rose, too.

And it's entirely possibe that, considering how utilitarian and class-divided the Homeworld is implied to be, Pearl really wouldn't have had any more personal freedom if she *hadn't* sided with Rose, but sort of. It seems like Rose tried to give her more personal freedom (or at least that's the implication I got from Rose's Scabbard and Sworn To The Sword), which Pearl couldn't accept because she'd been socially conditioned (or made/programmed???) like that, and because of her perception of low self-worth.

Which leads to this whole lack of balance in their amounts of relative importance for each other.

Wow.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-02 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess this makes Pearl's song "Strong In The Real Way " more important than I thought.
Pearl is really trying so damn hard to try to stand up for herself in that song, even when confronted with huge amounts of conflict from her fellow Crystal Gems. And little Steven is trying very hard to follow in her wise footsteps.
Cool.