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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-01 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #3101 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-07-02 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
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Yeah, The Punisher is one of the grittiest characters at Marvel's disposal and his lighthearted moments can be pretty sparse. That's not to say that he's never kind or never forms relationships with people or anything, it's just that a lot of writers have no fucking idea what to do with him and often figure that writing him as an outright psychopath is good enough and don't utilize the fact that he can be a pretty complex and interesting character. Plus, a lot of the time when he shows up in other titles, the writers just use him more as a plot device than an actual character so that other heroes can see his behavior and learn a "valuable lesson" from it or so they can chastise him. A prime example of this is the fact that in the Civil War arc, it was after seeing The Punisher's (who was, like Cap, anti-registration) behavior that Captain America suddenly had an epiphany and realized that the anti-registration side was totes wrong and Tony was right all along.

I'm really hopeful that the show will give him some good writing though and flesh him out well
elaminator: (Daredevil: Matt/Foggy (avocados))

[personal profile] elaminator 2015-07-02 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
It seems that the MCU hasn't been too 'strict' with keeping to the original characters likeness, so maybe he'll be a bit more likable and won't come off as one-note.

Or at least I hope so, because while Daredevil was unexpectedly dark, it still had a lot of humor, and even the main baddy had his 'good' moments. (...Or, not sure you would call them that, but his relationship with Vanessa and Wesley made him more real to me.)

Plus, a lot of the time when he shows up in other titles, the writers just use him more as a plot device than an actual character so that other heroes can see his behavior and learn a "valuable lesson" from it or so they can chastise him.

Doesn't Punisher have a pretty enthusiastic fanbase? Kind of surprised to think of that after reading this, lol.

(Anonymous) 2015-07-02 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Doesn't Punisher have a pretty enthusiastic fanbase? Kind of surprised to think of that after reading this, lol

He does (although, honestly, a lot of Punisher fans are kind of gross. he has a lot of ~hardcore~ fanboys that are very offputting) but he still has far less fans than a lot of the other Marvel superheroes so maybe they care less about character assassination with him or something, idk. A lot of the decisions from Marvel writers confuse me tbh.

I agree that the show will probably give him some depth though, especially since interviews have implied that Daredevil and Punisher are going to team up at some point next season.
elaminator: (Daredevil: Matt (suitkink))

[personal profile] elaminator 2015-07-02 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they just like asshole characters. God knows I've liked asshole characters before, and sometimes it isn't so much despite that fact but because of that fact.

It's def rarer for me, but on occasion the right combination comes along and something ~magical~ happens. I don't know if that's what's going on with Punisher's fanbase or not, but it'll be interesting to see how the MCU fandom reacts to him. (I will laugh and laugh and then possibly cry if he's rotten to the core and fandom woobifies him.)

especially since interviews have implied that Daredevil and Punisher are going to team up at some point next season.

Hmm, considering Matt's stance on killing that should be something else.