[ SECRET POST #3106 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3106 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[lb_lee]

I dunno, I would've appreciated being warned about the graphic child rape scene when I had to read Kaffir Boy for school when I was...twelve, I think?

I mean, I KNEW there would be racism, no fucking shit, but the child rape was really, REALLY upsetting for a twelve-year-old incest survivor, and mentioning it wouldn't have given away anything plot important. I mean, I was told there'd be "extreme content," but I was prepared for apartheid racism, not... THAT.

--Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

Were you a child prodigy? The specific reference was to university students, who are well beyond the age of needing to be coddled. As for your specific circumstances, even though it's awful what you went through in your personal life doesn't exempt you from having to deal with other people's tragedy. That's how you get over negative experiences, not by isolating your pain but by accepting that it's part of a larger shared experience.

[lb_lee]

what you went through in your personal life doesn't exempt you from having to deal with other people's tragedy

For someone snarking my reading comprehension, you need to work on yours. When did I ever say I wanted to be EXEMPT from the reading, or dealing with it? Being warned doesn't mean I magically get to not read the book or experience the scene. It's not like the rape scene would've magically been erased by saying it exists! It just means I could go, "Oh," and see it coming, instead of being taken by surprise.

In fact, your whole argument is totally spurious. You're equating not warning or discussing a topic beforehand as isolating my pain... when in fact, mentioning, "Hey, this happens in the book," could've opened this whole conversation in my class!

But that didn't happen. Instead, my class said nothing about the scene, before, during, or after. It was like it never existed, just like in real life. So I DID have a larger shared experience, just not the one you imagine. It was the shared experience of knowing that other kids could get raped and have everyone just ignore it, because it made them uncomfortable. THEY were the ones who wanted to be coddled. Not me.

--Rogan

[(Anonymous)]

Me. Me. Me. Me.

I sense a pattern.

[lb_lee]

And I sense... a fuckwad!

--Mori

[(Anonymous)]

are you a pattern of senseless bastard?

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is that it necessarily influences your preconceptions going into a book.

I'm not even talking about very specific "oh, by the way, this rather surprising and affecting thing happens at the end of this classic piece of Russian literature", which knowing beforehand would drastically restructure the way you perceive the book going in (you know which book I mean, lit nerds).

I'm more talking about books where the possibly quite serious thing is incidental to the overarching themes of the book (which can happen). If you start by saying "this is a feature of the book", then it necessarily elevates it to a major theme through which the remainder of the book will be viewed, even if it generally isn't considered to be such.

By pre-emptively highlighting features of the text, you are prejudicing the reading somewhat. Now, in some cases this might be necessary; if a student confidentially explains that their mother committed suicide, I would not consider it unreasonable to glance over the reading list and consider the effect it may have. But blanket warnings in all cases to all readers will naturally have a strong effect on the overall interpretations and themes, which may not necessarily be conducive to what you want to bring out of the texts.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, this.

If something in your life makes it so that you go into fits each time you see something even remotely close to it, I'd hope that you have the smarts to seek help. That is not normal and it's ludicrous to ask everyone to accommodate you because you refuse to help yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

...Most people with ptsd DO seek/get help, but that doesn't mean they're gonna be "fixed" from that problem. Many people who are getting help/have gotten help STILL can be triggered. How do you think mental help works, that they just give you a pill and a person's ptsd vanishes?

[(Anonymous)]

*sarcasm* Obviously they just need to work harder! */sarcasm*

[(Anonymous)]

There's got to be a better solution to this problem. I really wish there was.
Ow. Ow. Ow.

[(Anonymous)]

to have the scar/wound, that just a reminder for what to come. it is no something to celebrate or forget about...

my empathy, you have granted.