[ SECRET POST #3109 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3109 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sense8]


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[Gatchaman Crowds]


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[Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[Blue Beetle]


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[Metroid]


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[God, the Devil and Bob]


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[The Cell (2000)]


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Comments

[fscom]

09. http://i.imgur.com/ytbp9CN.jpg
[God, the Devil and Bob]

Transcript by OP

[fscom]

Picture of God from God, The Devil and Bob

I'm an agnostic atheist, but if there had to be a God, in the sense I was raised to believe in, I'd nominate Him.

[vethica]

I've only seen bits of this show, but from what I know of him, I'd absolutely agree.

[ill_omened]

So are you an agnostic or an atheist then. I'm confused, surely you're not using made up meaningless internet classifications that misunderstand the meaning of the terms.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree - you're either an agnostic or you're an atheist. There's no being both.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, codswallop. Human belief is complicated and layered, it's not a toggle switch. Layer in aliefs and tribal shibboleths and it's even more complicated than that. "Agnostic atheist" makes perfect sense to me.

[(Anonymous)]

I stand corrected. Well, sit. I sit corrected.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, maybe op means they are not a militant atheist. (says the militant agnostic)

[cbrachyrhynchos]

The concept comes almost directly from a 1947 Bertrand Russell essay.

[raspberryrain]

I assume they mean they don't believe in God (atheist), and have enough humility not to claim they know for certain whether God exists (agnostic). That's a really common position, actually.

[ill_omened]

But that's not what atheism means. It's not a claim to absolute knowledge (unlike agnosticism which is).

[(Anonymous)]

Really? That's... Not what I was told those words meant. From several different sources. Where did you find your definitions?

[ill_omened]

Atheism is the belief that there is no god. Agnosticism is the idea that whether there is a god or not is unknowable.

[raspberryrain]

Even by that definition, someone could lean toward the atheist side of the question.

And there's a difference between strong agnosticism, weak agnosticism, and what I meant, which is the profession of personal ignorance and lack of capacity to know. So there are three different degrees of "agnostic" anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Well then isn't agnosticism the Rejection of absolute knowledge?

[diet_poison]

that's literally the opposite of what agnosticism is

[(Anonymous)]

I think OP is trying to say they don't believe there is a god, but that it's unknowable either way. Is there a more succinct way to say that?

[(Anonymous)]

Is there a more succinct way to say that?

Agnostic atheist. Or Atheist agnostic.

...after reading this thread, neither of those look like words anymore. :P

I suppose it could be like Schrödinger's paradox.

[(Anonymous)]

Until you open the box and observe the cat, you don't know, but I guess you could believe one way or the other.

It's not the way I personally think about it. For me, being agnostic means that I don't know. And, as for belief, well, my (admittedly semantic) stance is that I don't not believe.

Re: I suppose it could be like Schrödinger's paradox.

[(Anonymous)]

Schrödinger's atheist. It might be an atheist, but we don't know for sure untill the maybe-atheist sees proof that God exists and decides that nope, I still don't believe in God.

[(Anonymous)]

Man, I remember really liking this show. Thanks for the nostalgia.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, I remember this show! iirc it was surprisingly funny and goodhearted. Weird to think that it was controversial back in the day.