[ SECRET POST #3111 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3111 ⌋

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[Peaky Blinders - not a repeat]


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[(Anonymous)]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsomer_Murders#Controversy

Basically, the producer gave an interview where he said that he didn't cast non-white characters because he wanted to keep the show "English".

And the thing that really bothers me about it is that I don't think it's just one producer being a dickhead; it seems to me that this certain understanding of Englishness is sort of at the center of the appeal of Midsomer Murders as a show. So it bothers me.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
Thanks for the link.

Huh, yeah that is really not cool. And like, I've noticed that other people have made similar kind of comments (Idris Elba is not English enough to play James Bond), so I guess that might be somewhat of a common attitude in parts. Sucks that those with the attitudes are in charge of TV-shows.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, duh? English people are white. You can have nonwhite characters, but they wouldn't be English, they'd be immigrants from somewhere else (or children of immigrants). I guess some people would try to argue that they're English if they have citizenship, but they're still genetically from somewhere else.

I mean, if a white person moved to Japan or Africa, would you call them Japanese or African?

[feotakahari]

Yes.

(Reminds me of a documentary I once saw called My America. They interviewed a fifth-generation Chinese immigrant. They kept finding different ways to ask what she considered herself, and she kept calling herself an American.)

[(Anonymous)]

That's happened to me, too. I wasn't born in the U.S. but I've lived here nearly my whole life. I have no memory of what it is to live in another country aside from being a tourist, and I am not fluent in any other language but English. My younger siblings were born in the U.S. I'm American. But since I'm not white, I grew up with people questioning what I REALLY am all the time, and much like the anon you replied to, they don't seem to fully understand that they're being a racist asshat.

[(Anonymous)]

"English" is not a denotation of race, much like "American" or "Canadian" are not a denotation of race. Also, white people who are born and raised in South Africa call themselves South African, so... maybe brush up your shaky grasp of what words mean?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, they're called "South African" only because they live there. It's useful, to describe where they come from, in the sense of where they were born and live/lived. But they're actually mostly Dutch, I think.

[(Anonymous)]

... which supports the point that "English" is not a label indicative of race, but nationality.

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately, the producers quite happily cast people of other white backgrounds (Dutch, Irish, Scottish) which rather undermines their thesis.