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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-12 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3112 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3112 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Rick and Morty]


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[Look Around You]


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[One Piece, Roronoa Zoro]


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[Lawrence of Arabia]


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[Achievement Hunter]


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[Daniel Vincent Gordh (The Lizzie Bennet Diaries)]


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(Star Wars, Obi Wan Kenobi)


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[Demolition Man]


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[Steven Universe]










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Re: Canon non-compliant character you like

(Anonymous) 2015-07-12 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You do realize that was a very common age for women to marry and have children a few hundred years ago?

Re: Canon non-compliant character you like

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-07-12 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually that's a historical inaccuracy. It was a somewhat more accepted age for nobility to acquire wives, long thought to be more common because what records there were of it were well kept (in much the same way that celebrity marriages are sensationalized today). It was far from the norm.

As an analogy, it would be like looking at Britney Spears's 72 hour marriage and going, "Oh that was common in 2000."

In actuality, the majority of marriages even amongst nobility were between couples similar in age.

I'm talking European history here, incidentally. If you want to really get into child brides then you want to go looking for Africa and India for certain cultural practices.
Edited 2015-07-12 21:39 (UTC)

Re: Canon non-compliant character you like

(Anonymous) 2015-07-13 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention they usually didn't consummate the marriage until the wife was older because they were aware of the risks of teen pregnancy.

Re: Canon non-compliant character you like

(Anonymous) 2015-07-12 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You realize fantasy can be just that... Fantasy? It doesn't have to be historically accurate.
Dany could've been 21 in the books and no-one would have given it a second thought.

"Yeah, we'll have dragons and monsters and... HOLY SHIT we have a hot female character who has lots of sex and she isn't underage?! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!"

????

Re: Canon non-compliant character you like

(Anonymous) 2015-07-12 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
But wouldn't that be the same problem as someone today writing a story romanticizing slavery & portraying it as a good thing? People probably thought like that in the past, but that doesn't exactly make it a comfortable reading experience.
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Re: Canon non-compliant character you like

[personal profile] ariakas 2015-07-13 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
No, actually, it wasn't. 90% of women got married over the age of 19 in the middle ages, with the average age of marriage being as late as 25 in Scandanavia. Some noblewomen got married in their early teens to lock down alliances/seal property rights, but not only did their male peers get married similarly young, these were, the the vast majority of the time, not consummated until the girl in question was at least 16-18.

Pregnancies under 19, particularly under 15, have astronomically higher risks than those between 20-39, which is why the WHO considers teen pregnancy a main health concern: people in the middle ages knew this. This isn't new information. Heck, even in The Republic, written in ancient Greece, the "ideal" society has a minimum age of 20 for women to marry (and Aristotle made his 18 for the same reason) precisely because it was well-known even at the time that early pregnancies far often resulted in defects, and killed their mothers' still-developing bodies, than those carried to term later in life.

I know this is a very common myth about the middle/dark ages, though. (And others who should know better *cough*GRRM*cough* have fetishes for teens, so they willfully ignore it.)