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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-18 04:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3118 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3118 ⌋

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Re: When gay characters die...

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm bisexual... and, most of the time, it doesn't bother me at all. If there's nothing to imply that the character died because they were gay, or if there was and it was a hate crime, a real thing that happens, as long as the death is treated respectfully in the story I don't see it as a problem either. Basically as long as the other characters react to the death the way they would to anyone else's death I don't think it means anything.

If they're a joke character whose only purpose is to be gay and then die and it's comical, that would bother me but I can't think of anything I've seen where that happens, although I'm sure it does somewhere. [I only thought of that example because it's something that happens to straight teenage couples in horror movies who are introduced to have sex and then get killed off, implication being that having sex without being married is bad and you should be punished for it.]

SA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I've also read articles criticizing the gay character death by hate crime for teaching kids that if you're gay, you'll get killed for it, so don't be gay... but all the examples they give are things that, when I saw things like that as an Impressionable Young Child, I thought it was crystal clear that the message was this is wrong and horrible, don't fucking kill people for being gay, NOT that it's gay people's job to stop being gay.
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Re: SA

[personal profile] elaminator 2015-07-19 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was crystal clear that the message was this is wrong and horrible, don't fucking kill people for being gay, NOT that it's gay people's job to stop being gay.

I understand how such tragic stories could make a person nervous to come out (especially if they're dealing with homophobic friends, family, acquaintances, etc), but IA.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2015-07-19 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the message obviously isn't "don't be gay," but the actual message isn't a great improvement. Kids' only exposure to people like them shouldn't be watching people like them being turned into a joke and/or abused and killed, regardless of the message behind the violence.
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Re: When gay characters die...

[personal profile] elaminator 2015-07-19 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
IA, and well said.

I suppose it depends on the individual situation, but as long as the character isn't dying because they are gay I see it as any other death. (Which means I might very well think that the death was bullshit, but I might also see it as perfectly fitting considering the piece of media.)

If the death is a hate crime...well, that's depressing, but anon is right, it does happen and as long as it isn't treated lightly I'm not going to scream about it. (I DO want happier stories staring gay characters, but I feel like with time we'll see more of it. Things are changing, even if slowly.)