[ SECRET POST #3118 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3118 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

someone can't read, cherry-picker

[(Anonymous)]

cherry-picker? lmao
if anything, it's even worse quoted in full --

"The thing everyone is forgetting is that before it was revealed that the Nazis were doing horrible war crimes, everyone was supporting them. People in the USA were supporting them. People in Britain were supporting them.

It wasn't until reports started coming out of Germany that people were like "oh shit". For a time it genuinely seemed as though they were a very progressive, extremely efficient and popular political party."

you can't win this one, ever -- the nazis were so up front about their goals even from the very beginning, and most decent people loathed them.
that's simply the truth, backed up by mountains of evidence

herpy just needs to shut up

[(Anonymous)]

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Well... you're factually incorrect. Average people didn't know the extent of what the Nazis were doing and planning on doing. Most people didn't know that shit until we had people in the concentration camps, trying to save prisoners. In 1933, people knew that Germany was getting itself back together, and though the Nazis were shady, the average person did not know just how crazy the regime was.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not really true. No one knew the Nazis were the Nazis, in terms of concentration camps. Even if they said some fucked-up horrible things, I think it was reasonably easy for people to discount those things, to view that as simply the kinds of things that parties out of power say and to assume that once in power they would act more rationally. It was easy to assume that the anti-Semitism was simply some sort of reflexive prejudice. And that was in some ways not an entirely unreasonable assumption (in the sense, I mean, that people usually don't mean what they say, and that the Nazis were in many ways a profoundly new phenomenon in politics with which it was hard to come to grips; not that supporting the Nazis or their anti-Semitism was in any way justified).

What people did know, pretty well, was the political position of the Nazis. People knew that they were a radical right-wing political party, that they were German nationalists, that they were anti-democratic and anti-liberal, that they were extremists. And so most of the opposition and the support for them, certainly in 1933, was on that ground. People who were left-wing opposed them virulently; people who were right-wing were more likely to understand where they were coming from, or to regard them at worst as useful allies in the struggle against Communism. Which is probably the relevant context for this picture, nobility in England being what it is politically.

Of course we should always mock the Daily Mail etc for supporting the Nazis in the 1930s, because it is ridiculous, and because fuck the Daily Mail. But the idea that supporting the Nazis then meant what supporting the Nazis now means is simply historically wrong. To support the Nazis was radical and right-wing, but it was not support of the violent extermination of Jews and other undesirables, or the conquest of Europe by Germany, or any of that sort of thing.

[herpymcderp]

No, you need to learn some history.

And you also really need to get over your hateboner for me.