[ SECRET POST #3129 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3129 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

Re: Current Reading

[loracarol]

I'm currently making my way through the Discworld "Watch" books. I just finished Foot of Clay and The Fifth Elephant neither of which I'd read before, and I adored them. Next up is Night Watch, which I love, so I'm looking forward to it as soon as I find my copy for fucks sake.

Re: Current Reading

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, that is the one where Vimes goes back in time and becomes the mentor to his younger self while trying not to fight in a civil war and catch a serial killer, isn't it. That is such a cool book. I loved the end too, when he refuses to execute the killer even wheh his newborn son is threatened. Classic Vimes. And young Vetinari too, awesome.

Night Watch (Discworld) spoilers ^

[loracarol]

Yep! Though I tend to think of it as "the Discworld Les Miserables" myself (as that was how it was introduced to me).

(...If you were attempting to troll me by spoiling everything, I did mention that I'd already read that one, right? Like, I said I was rereading it, didn't I?)

Re: Night Watch (Discworld) spoilers ^

[(Anonymous)]

Huh? No, I thought we were supposed to be talking about the bits of books we love. I never really like the Les Mis part, although it is obvious Pratchett is drawing on many of the French Rrevolutions, but there is so much more to it than that. It is probably the best time-travel/Dirty Harry plot I've ever read.

Re: Night Watch (Discworld) spoilers ^

[loracarol]

Okidoke. :) Figured I'd better warn anyone else anyway. ^_^

Seriously, I don't know what my favorite part of that book is, it's all so good! But ye gods the scene in the torture chambers. D:

Re: Night Watch (Discworld) spoilers ^

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, I found that just a little too on the nose to be effective. Especially since Vimes also effectively uses torture techniques too in his own enhanced interrogation of Ferret and the narrative doesn't call him on it. The scene at the end is the one that nails it best.

Re: Night Watch (Discworld) spoilers ^

[loracarol]

I found Vimes' "torture tecniques"/"advanced interrogation" to be so remotely not on the same scale as Swing's torture dungeons, so I disagree that he needed to be "called out" by the narrative.

Re: Night Watch (Discworld) spoilers ^

[(Anonymous)]

Just because it isn't on the same scale, does not mean it should be excused the way the text does. It is still the same old the ends justify the means crap.

Re: Night Watch (Discworld) spoilers ^

[loracarol]

The difference is, for me, we've spent so long in Vimes's head, and we continue to do so over the series, that I trust "his" judgement, so yeah, I'd believe that the end (finding out what Ferret knew) justified the means (making hissing noises and fake screaming, and letting Ferret's mind do the rest) in this instance. There was a specific end goal in sight, vs. Findthe Swing's goal of torturing people for fun and profit.