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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-07-29 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #3129 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3129 ⌋

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Re: Worst character interpretation you've ever seen?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, do you know they aren't assholes, or is that just your head!canon? I mean, I grant books can give more nuanced interpretations, but to some extent, book canon is different from movie canon, and in movie canon, there was next to nothing redeemable about either character. Does that make them violent rapists? Well no, not in canon. But if you want to write a rape!fic, you might as well make the asshole characters do the deed.

Re: Worst character interpretation you've ever seen?

(Anonymous) 2015-07-30 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's not my headcanon. I can quote you all the relevant passages from the books. And, to be clear, I am talking from the book perspective. I have been from the start (I only quoted movie to respond to the comment I received). Especially when you consider Thranduil, the evil!Thranduil and evil!Denethor that I encountered was back when LOTR came out, which was before the Hobbit movies completely bastardized Thranduil's character. Impressions from the movies for him weren't around so there was only the book, and in the book he is a good person (Bilbo decides if he's going to die, he'd rather die defending Thranduil than anybody else).

(Seriously, I started going over the book characterization for these two to support my claim but it was turning into an essay, so if you really want me to prove that this isn't a headcanon, I can. Suffice to say, it's more than a more nuanced reading of the books: the movies fucked up their characterization and they're not like that in the books.)

It's not as if I don't understand where these bad characterizations came from but that doesn't make them any less wrong. And it wasn't just the one-off fic where someone wanted to make them evil for the sake of the fic; there was a vocal part of fandom back in the early 2000s (and to some extent still today) that insisted these two are actually evil - that it was completely consistent with their characters to be physically abusive to their children. So, that made them the worst characterizations in my fandom.